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Old 16th September 2012, 11:46 PM   #111
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The biggest threat to western audio is the Asian markets. There is no way we can compete with the likes of China on price.
I tried building an amp for less than the Chinese and failed miserably. I couldnt even get the components for what they are selling for. I have had pcb's made in China and they were a third of the price they are in the UK and that includes p+p half way around the world !

I sell software and was the only one selling that software on ebay, now there are numerous competitors selling much chepaer than me.

I am seriously wasting my time ion the general hardware and software markets.

The only way to make money is to specialise with technology above what the CHinese can make.
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Old 3rd October 2012, 01:17 PM   #112
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Has a group of audio companies silenced RS or something?
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Old 3rd October 2012, 01:57 PM   #113
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Originally Posted by eisenhower View Post
Wine spectator uses single blind taste tests. I know several people who actually work at wineries, and they occasionally use single blind taste tests, but mostly sighted tests. There are several studies which show cheaper wines beating expensive wines in comprehensive double blind taste tests. If what you said was true, then these expensive wineries are making all kinds mistakes.

Your strong claim that everyone everywhere has used double blind taste testing is utter nonsense.
Having worked in that industry for more than a decade, judged at competitions in both California and France, and personally set up, run, and participated in hundreds of DBTs of winemaking variables at my own company and at our customers and investors' facilities (including Beringer, Mondavi, Clos du Bois, Gallo, Kendall-Jackson...), I can confidently tell you that you're wrong. So can anyone with a MW or WCET certification, who must pass DBTs for their qualifications.

Part of your confusion is terminological- "single blind" and "double blind" have a different meaning in the wine world than anywhere else. A "single blind" for wine tasting can certainly be "double blind" in the usual sensory definition of "no one in the room knows which is which." In wine tasting, "single blind" means that the tasters know which wines (or variables in the same wine) are under test but not which wines are in which glass.

Edit: And I would be the last person to claim that expensive wines always taste better to everyone than cheaper wines. In fact, the opposite is often true- I find many of the VERY expensive wines out there (e.g., Super Tuscans, top-shelf Napa Cabernets like Screagle) are bloody awful.
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Old 1st April 2015, 03:05 AM   #114
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Default Uh ... not quite ...

Originally Posted by abraxalito View Post
Without more dynamic characterizations in the datasheet, I very much doubt that DAC would beat TDA1541A in this particular application. But you're welcome to expose the flaws in my reading of the datasheet

First up - SFDR is quoted at 100dB at a sample rate of 10kHz. How much would this be likely to degrade by 44k1? TDA1541A quotes -100dB THD whereas your suggested DAC sports a mere -97dB. The sample rates are rather different too (174k vs 10k).

The glitch impulses quoted in the AD5791 don't fill me with any confidence whatsoever as to how it will perform dynamically.

So - nice try, but no cigar After all, this is audio not industrial process control.
Well, abraxalito, it seems that folks at Schiit audio don't quite agree with your UNCONFIDENT claim ... ergo, they may've gone for that DAC IC in their their new(er) high-end D/A, the Yggdrasil.

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Originally Posted by hollowman View Post
Well, abraxalito, it seems that folks at Schiit audio don't quite agree with your UNCONFIDENT claim ... ergo, they may've gone for that DAC IC in their their new(er) high-end D/A, the Yggdrasil.
Perhaps this is just a trolling outing, but as you've read my blog (DIYA stats show you've visited more than once) then is it possible you missed this post?

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