Are you a walking battery?

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Comparing teeth to a computer chip. Comparing teeth to spark plugs. Bogus insanity. To think that ANYTHING else this man could purport could be more than that is ludicrous.

Perhaps, in his ignorance, by random chance, he is discussing something which is very important. But he certainly has no real idea what he is talking about. Is the consensus that he should be taken seriously?


When I studied nutrition back in the seventies the professor explained that when we chew, the pressure the teeth exert upon their sockets set up a slight electric charge that attracts the minerals needed to keep the bone building itself up.

That is why when one gets a bridge, the bone of the empty socket in the middle will over time shrink from the lack of this effect. Our mouth has an element of electricity in its healthy function. Also, I remember watching a science show where a severed leg of a frog was hooked up to electrodes. When a current was applied the leg would jump. Our body involves a great deal of electric interaction. The brain puts out many low level electrical signals. The current from metals in the mouth is not very high by our standards, but compared to level the brain puts out its much higher and can interfere with what electric flow that part of the body was supposed to receive.

Pacemaker? Electric current causes our heart beat! If certain minerals are deficient in the body the heartbeat can become irregular and erratic. Certain minerals are utilzed in the synapse effect in transferring electric current. Many with heart conditions are deficient in magnesium. Look here for one page of many: Can Magnesium Stop Heart Palpitations? | LIVESTRONG.COM

The saliva in our mouth is filled with electrolytes. Ever see the label on Gatorade? Saliva is a perfect conductor for creating a battery between two different metals.

Also -search: synapse brain neurons

Our body needs electricity to function. Adding a much higher current into your system can easily throw something in your body out of kilter. That is why it can be harmful to create a battery in the mouth. The current level found in certain mouths was measured sometimes a 1000 times higher than what the brain produces. Miniscule amounts in the brain can not compensate. Its like grabbing wires running high levels of DC current. Your muscles will lock up and you will not be able to let go. Our muscles are controlled by electricity.
 
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"Saliva acts as an electrolyte when it mixes with amalgam fillings, to create a measurable electric current of 900 millivolts. This current overpowers the body's normal 450 millivolts, interferes with energy flow to the brain and is suspected as a catalyst in many illnesses."

um wat?


My oral surgeon who is not involved with this movement, is well aware of the the the electrogalvinism phenomena. So was his assistant. I discussed this with them recently.

 
I had heard that a benefit of mercury amalgam fillings is that they are somewhat antibacterial and help to keep the cavity more sterile. Certainly that could be achieved with these composite fillings in some way though.
It`s true that amalgam has an antibacterial effect but that`s a more recent finding and was not the reason it was initially used. The reasons for using it were that it was (for a very long time) the unique material around which was "in situ" moldable, adapted well to the cavity (small joint fissure), cured quickly, resisted the chewing pressure well and that it`s very durable, besides it is cheap.

Today, modern dentistry has alternative and more advanced techniques and materials. Not always quite as easy in situ applicable but therefore less toxic and in case of composite or ceramics without potentially creating battery effects and last but not least cosmetically far superior to that black chunk of metal (what becomes more and more important these days).
 
GeneZ, from what I have read every bit of what you have written above is correct in the contexts in which those statements originated.

But you can't just take a bunch of "electricity related factoids" out of context and then cobble them together in vague support of a theory.

For instance, the mouth and jaw tissues would seem to me to be good conductors. My guess would be that currents flowing between teeth would most likely be highest through the saliva and tongue and gums in the mouth, and falling the further away from the "circuit". How then can these currents affect the well insulated, distant, brain material?

I'm not saying that they can't. But I do not think that there is strong enough evidence to say they do.
 
I sincerely apologize!

Sorry for my passion on the pseudoscience topic. I worry about people getting taken advantage of by that sort of thing. :/

Tade

*maybe more on topic*
I do know that people performing analytical tests for mercury cannot have mercury fillings as their own breath will contaminate the samples and skew the results.


The dentist I saw for my amalgam removal used a $5000.00 device that the EPA uses to measure air quality. First he measured my regular breath. Then he showed me the meter's reading. He told me that if that was measured for the air outside the building the EPA would have taped off the area as a warning of poor air quality. He then handed me a stick of gum and told me to chew for what seemed to be thirty seconds. He then had me spit out the gum. He measured one more time and the meter pegged. He explained to me that the chewing produces heat through friction, and the heat releases the mercury vapor. I thought maybe he had a button on the side that he hid as a means to create an illusion. It was my first visit and I was still skeptical.

Then after doing a search online I caught a video which is a British news documentary where they were exploring the alleged effects of amalgams in the mouth. One scene took place with school children. Instead of having them chew gum, they were handed pieces of cloth and told to rub their filings. The crew had the same device my Dr. had. They children also pegged the meter after warming up their amalgams.

I had heard that a benefit of mercury amalgam fillings is that they are somewhat antibacterial and help to keep the cavity more sterile. Certainly that could be achieved with these composite fillings in some way though.

Mercury does kill off bacteria. Of course. Its highly toxic, that's why.
 
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"Saliva acts as an electrolyte when it mixes with amalgam fillings, to create a measurable electric current of 900 millivolts. This current overpowers the body's normal 450 millivolts, interferes with energy flow to the brain and is suspected as a catalyst in many illnesses."

um wat?

Well the natural alternative to amalgam fillings is to take care of your teeth and eat a diet that does not cause cavities. I am in my forties and have none ;) Perhaps this is due to water fluoridation, which the quacks also detest.

I would not put mercury in my mouth, not because I am worried about electric currents (measured in millivolts - ROTFL) but because I know mercury is potentially toxic and there are alternatives. That said, elemental mercury in solid or liquid form is not readily absorbed by the body - you could drink it and suffer few ill effects. I don't need some silly nonsense about spark plugs and batteries to justify my opinion about that.

On the other hand, if there were significant loss of mercury from amalgam fillings, the filling would continuously shrink, and they don't much, or you would need to replace them a lot more often. Significant amounts of mercury are also produced by coal fired power plants, and the amount of mercury in seafood is simply amazing.

I just put the leads to my multimeter in my mouth and was able to measure a max of 22mV DC and 1mV AC and never registered more than 0.1mA of current, even when flexing my tongue and cheeks. I hope there wasn't any lead on the leads...

If the replacement is indeed some sort of ceramic-adhesive slurry, there could be piezoelectric or triboelectric effects that cause voltages when chewing. The epoxy could cause sensitivity reactions that could trump mercury toxicity by many, many times.

But then I am just a hard-minded (and toothed) cynic...

I'll stick to my current fluoride regimen ;)
 
"Saliva acts as an electrolyte when it mixes with amalgam fillings, to create a measurable electric current of 900 millivolts. This current overpowers the body's normal 450 millivolts, interferes with energy flow to the brain and is suspected as a catalyst in many illnesses."

What surprised me about that quote was the lack of any apparent understanding of electricity, while seeming to be completely comfortable with throwing around phrases such as "current of 900 millivolts" and "the body's 450 millivolts". I would be happy to explain why these statements are nonsense. The problem is that they lend pseudo-credibility to an audience unfamiliar with electrical theory.
 
He explained to you that the bubble gum produced heat by friction which releases the mercury vapor!? Holy cow. Don't readjust your skepticism meter, it is working A OK!

My GUESS is that the bubble gum, or the cloth rubbing, would remove a protective layer from the filling, perhaps exposing fresh mercury. But I have absolutely no evidence to support this opinion.

I must state that I have NOTHING against being imaginative, and thinking outside of the box. There are many times when a forward thinking person has been vindicated after the fact. But something does not become elevated to the level of technical accuracy without rigor.

Science can be intimidating. It produces a constant feeling of speeding towards an unseen horizon. But shouldn't something which is at first intimidating become something empowering once it is embraced?
 
I'm off topic again.

Any way of separating the effects of galvanic currents from those of toxicity? GeneZ does your improvement post-removal provide any evidence?

I stopped walking around in a constant brain fog. More like a London brain fog. It was really bad. My energy level improved and my sense of smell and taste had returned nicely. But I still had to rid myself of the serious internal infection that my root canal was causing. That's when my energy level improved even more and now remains steady throughout the day. Smell and taste improved beautifully.

I recently had an implant placed in my jaw to take care of the root canal extraction. To heal, the implant is sealed over with a big stainless steel healing cap. This stainless steel cap sits adjacent to several crowns that are gold based. Since having that healing cap in my mouth my sense of balance has been effected. That is what renewed my interest in the battery effect.

Once that cap comes off, the crown will be hermetically sealed. The implant is located in the bone below the gum line. The crown will be sealing it off and will be non-metalic.

Several years ago the specialists I went to told me to have two crowns removed that were based with nickel. The ones he left behind were all of the same base of gold. That was to stop the possibility of producing galvanism. Metals of the same kind will not produce this effect. And, that is why I still have some crowns that are gold based covered with enamel. Once that healing cap is removed the imbalance I am now experiencing I believe should end. That is, if my feeling this way stems from the healing cap and gold crowns becoming an EverReady. My oral surgeon thinks I am imagining things, that its simply allergies kicking up. But I feel strong and not groggy. Its simply that my sense of balance is effected.

We'll see.
 
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Spooky stuff!

So we may have batteries in out mouths, but more importantly we have a toxic dump in out mouths.

That's the problem. We get so used to it we think its normal. When your energy and alertness returns you then think about the wasted years. But, I'm just glad to have found out and so happened to live near a holistic dentist.

Mind you. I eat well and take nutrients. But, when I had the amalgams these good habits helped protect me from too much damage. Now I feel the benefits much more as described for the nutrients.
 
For the record, when I had all the amalgam removed from my mouth when I was 18, I did it out of pure unsubstantiated paranoia. I feel no different now than I did before having it removed. There was a significant amount that was in there, and had been in there for quite some time. I was only about 13 when all four of my first molars needed >30% of each tooth filled.

To a comment a few pages back about avoiding all of this with proper oral hygiene; it isn't that simple. Genetics and digestive health play a big role in tooth decay. I have always had good oral hygiene, yet I have 7 major filling. I have also had severe stomache/digestive problems since birth.
 
For the record, when I had all the amalgam removed from my mouth when I was 18, I did it out of pure unsubstantiated paranoia. I feel no different now than I did before having it removed. There was a significant amount that was in there, and had been in there for quite some time. I was only about 13 when all four of my first molars needed >30% of each tooth filled.

To a comment a few pages back about avoiding all of this with proper oral hygiene; it isn't that simple. Genetics and digestive health play a big role in tooth decay. I have always had good oral hygiene, yet I have 7 major filling. I have also had severe stomache/digestive problems since birth.

When you say you felt no difference? Does that mean you felt great before, and felt no difference after? Or, that you did not improve?
 
I'm off topic again.

Any way of separating the effects of galvanic currents from those of toxicity? GeneZ does your improvement post-removal provide any evidence?
Health issues through amalgam fillings being toxic were not readily acknowledged until maybe a decade or two or so ago. Today, as GeneZ correctly stated (post#39), almost no dentists do use amalgam anymore (even my dentist who never objected to amalgan use 20 years ago thinks very different about this today). This all began due to patients who related their health issues to their dental restorations and after changing or removing those improved their health situations.


The same could become common sense in regard to that battery issue which as of yet is not very widely acknowledged as well but dentistry and their patients become more and more aware of that this COULD be the cause of all sort of health problems.

I can tell You about a first hand experienced story from about 25 years ago which I still remember very well (at least the essence of it).

The mother of a (DIY audio speaker builder) buddy of mine got "new teeth". Two chaws full of a multi-k$ restoration. Of course of the highest quality materials, a huge chunk of dental gold alloy veneered with composite (so nothing "toxic" involved). Worth about a mid class car.

It looked good (as usual too regular for my taste but anyway) fitted well but she was totally unhappy with it.
She said since she got the new teeth she feels extremely "nervous", somehow broken and that it "drives her crazy". Apart from that she also got all kinds of other strange physical symptoms unrelated to tooth issues. In one word she felt sick and she certainly looked like that, very pale and "wasted".
She said it must have "something to do" with the new teeth.
She asked me, being a dental technician, what the hell this could be. At that time I had no idea. She tried to explain it to me again as I must have looked really perplexed the first time and as she also appeared as if she felt that her explanation might sound "unsubstantiated" (that word again). She made all sorts of snoots and gestures to visualize me how she feels (she rather often pointed to and around her head than her mouth) but finally she realized that this must look like "it doesn`t make any sense" and almost began to cry. She was a nervous wreck and I really felt sorry for her.

I said maybe it`s some sort of allergy and that she should talk with her dentist about this again.
She feared to do so as he belittled her already as she were hypochondriac and "it cannot be" because all of the materials used are state of the art and of the highest possible quality. Without having another choice she went back to him though and only because she insisted they made intense allergy tests about ANY of the materials involved.
Nothing.

I don`t know for how long this went, maybe a year or so.
She literally decreased more and more every time I saw her. The day came when she just couldn`t bear it any longer.
Meanwhile she became more and more "opiniated" about what the cause is (despite some held her for gone crazy) and said she sure "feels" it must be the metal in her mouse and decided to "wipe it out" (again, at that time I was totally unaware of a possibly battery effect of metals in the mouth). Step by step to see if this brings any benefits.
First she temporarily let have replaced the removable metal (gold) / composite structures with a full plastic resin prothesis. This immidiately brought a very positive effect to her health issues which convinced her to let also remove the fixed (anchored) telescopious crowns soon thereafter.
Since she had no metals in the mouth anymore she recovered quickly. She never ever regreted having done this against the advice of all the "experts". Quite the opposite, she is convinced it saved her life.

This was my first experience with this phenomen without knowing it.
Today I`m convinced this was all due to the battery effect of metals in the mouth. I`m no scientist nor a professor or a dentist. I`m only a dental technician so I don`t know what exactly has happend, maybe the current flow dissolved harmful ions out of the alloys which went I don`t know where and which can do I don`t know what harm. I think there are a lot of possibilities of what can happen.

One thing I learned, not to dismiss and never ever belittle somebody who tells You that she/he feels pain or sick, also when it`s against all known "theory" and that "it can not be".
 
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