John Curl's Blowtorch preamplifier part II

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Here is an example of what I measured over 2 decades. I do not completely understand where the distortion comes from: The equipment, the wire, the combination due to strange grounding? Who knows?
 

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Here are the actual colors of the filters:

001_ColorTempMix1.jpg


These are the ones that work best and they are pink, rose, with some orange,
then there are blues. We use because they look better live, broadcast
or post and have a good active look.

There are others oranges and greens you can use but then you have to
start adjusting in camera or in post. Hope this helps clarify it and shows
the actual filter color.
 
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@ John what are you showing in the plots?
Noise on the electrical outlets from the
power that you are using?

@ Richard how do we measure this again?
It will be helpful to me and others.

I plug the or use the coil of QA190 voltage divider
to measure 120 V power and feed it to the QA400
FFT into the computer? Then plot the result?

That will or should show me what's on the line
at the time or entering the line.

Nice Vehicle by the way. Now that I've finally
seen it. Getting ready to work on mine again.
Yours is a bit more refined than mine, more
of brute force guy I am w/a lowly Malibu
2 door Chevelle SS396.

Is the Bently yours too? Have you been holding
out on us?
 
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At risk of reigniting the fire if you read the first para of Skoff's bio you get these pearls

Roger Skoff is an economist and entrepreneur


and


he was founder and designer for XLO, the company whose cables were, until he sold it in 2002, recognized as "The Best in the World"

This to me says it all. An entrepreneur sees easy money in cables!
 
Hi marce,
No problems then. I usually get that kind of question from folks who don't understand how the technology works just before they launch into a "how it sounds is all that matters" type of comment. Not having observed your posts before now, there was no background to place your comments into context. Now I know you have a similar practical background where observing signals is concerned.

Normally any comment that equates a digital signal to analogue waveforms provokes another outburst from some folks out there. That is why being sorry about undermining an entire belief system comes from.

Yup!
I normally would call anything AM band or up as RF, yet I also firmly believe that you need to pay attention to at least 1 MHz for audio work. Most components we use will happily misbehave up there and beyond

We are probably close in age ... please allow me to apologize for misreading your question. The timing and content were mistaken for something else.

-Chris :)

:D
As I said I misunderstood the use of RF here... I think instantly of either real RF (it should be there) or airborne EMI which is often referred to as RF (which shouldn't be there)., which I thought this was hence the overuse of explanation marks (T.Prachett RIP will be cursing my abuse of punctuation)
Yes if people knew there super doper 51/4" floppies were set up using an offset screw and the eye diagrams on a scope, you developed a two handed method of holding the screwdriver, one to turn it and the other hand to oppose the turning force as the movement required was minute... A very frustrating job. I would say the good old days...but I prefer the technology we have now, no more racks of 2N3055 emitter coupled paralleled up for high current supplies, trying to guess the dodgy one without unsoldering any....
 
Or the base goes onto the shirt collar.

Not sure who replied about the filters.
I wasn't referring to camera filters but
filters in front of lighting that is used to
adjust the lighting that is already there.

Blue gels for use with the fluorescent (sp)
Pink or rose for use with the incandescent (sp).
I"ll try and see how much orange was in it,
but it wasn't an orange only gel.

That was me. In front of lamps. Orange to mix with incandescent, green with fluorescent. If you are interested I will look up the gel numbers I use.
 
Here are the actual colors of the filters:

001_ColorTempMix1.jpg


These are the ones that work best and they are pink, rose, with some orange,
then there are blues. We use because they look better live, broadcast
or post and have a good active look.

There are others oranges and greens you can use but then you have to
start adjusting in camera or in post. Hope this helps clarify it and shows
the actual filter color.

We are talking about different things. I am talking about the filters you put in front of photo or video lights in order to mix them with existing artificial light, so that you can apply the same colour correction to get all light sources the same temperature.
 
When Mrs Jung and Marsh published their article about caps (I believe a long work of measurements), it was at this time, for those who where not aware of this, a big step to kill the audio fashion, explain the differences we can hear between various technologies of CAPs and bring the things to a more scientific level.
Now, a brunch of bad educated cronies, in the purpose to make noise, obviously here in the order to increase their little business, comes and begins to criticize in a stupid and insulting way this helpful work with NO DATA. Just pack of barking.
They are pointless. Just jealous and bad educated. They are in my ignore list.
Let them throw up, they just harm themselves ... and their business as well.
 
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What business would that be? And in what way, specifically, is pointing out error helpful to someone else's business?

I think the consensus among the rational engineering and science types is that the measurements in that article were fine, but the interpretations and conclusions were somewhat misleading- for example, no recognition of the difference between different cap applications and how that might affect capacitor choice, and the conflation of DA with distortion. The latter error was demonstrated both theoretically and experimentally by the guy who developed the measurement method they used.
 
Keep in mind the famous Anatole France quote that I used to use as my sig line.
OOT, as he was one of the good friends of my grand parents, you may like to see the painting my grand mother made of him in 1909 ?
[edit] Science and Technics evolve. To judge the quality of a work, we have to replace-it at the time it was done.
Anyway, nothing excuse some personal attacks i have read here. "Charlatan", "The guy just can't think straight" as examples of thugs behavior.
 

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Here is an example of what I measured over 2 decades. I do not completely understand where the distortion comes from: The equipment, the wire, the combination due to strange grounding? Who knows?

We already know it's not the cables, John. Bruno's AP measurements ruled that out years ago. I don't know why you're still clinging to the possibility that it's the cables. Those old measurements of yours need to be tossed and never presented in public again.

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Science and Technics evolve. To judge the quality of a work, we have to replace-it at the time it was done.

Indeed they do evolve. The difference between science and fashion is that in science, ideas are tested and, if found lacking or faulty, discarded, even if there's no replacement. I can't imagine an ethical scientist trotting out long-discredited or flawed results- it would destroy one's career and credibility permanently. In fashion audio (or huckstering), it's a way of life.
 
Nothing has changed in my mind about distortion in apps from that time some 35 years ago. .

THx-RNMarsh

Yes you and other's have made this very clear many times. Nothing of past experience will be revisited and re-examined ever, nothing new will be learned. There apparently is as much to lose in this as in two sides sitting down together in a listening test where both sides have an equal chance "to get it wrong".
 
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