Manger MSW Bending Wave Driver

ShinOBIWAN · 22nd November 2006, 02:07 AM

Just a single Manger MSW.

Not very often you see this driver in the classifieds. I'll cut all my usual BS and just get down to it.

Info here:
http://www.manger-audio.co.uk/manger...transducer.htm

Specs:
http://www.manger-audio.co.uk/PDFs/MSW_data_sheet.pdf

White paper on how and why the Manger is unique:
http://www.manger-audio.co.uk/PDFs/a...al_reality.pdf

The driver has been used very briefly but its completely as new with original box and mountings/fittings. I bought it new direct from Manger UK 3 weeks ago at a cost of £515. Its got the usual 3 year Manger warranty too

I've decide to knock DIY speakers on the head over Winter and start anew come spring time next year. So plans will probably change once again and the easiest option is to sell now and then buy when I'm ready again.

I understand that even second hand these drivers are still very expensive so I wouldn't mind a trade for some DIY bits such as amp bits, sub drivers and what have you.

If your interested in just the driver with a straight transaction then I'm wanting £400.

BTW I also have detailed plans for the Manger Zerobox 103, 107 and 109. These include XO schematics, cutting lists and stuffing guides. These can be provided with the driver.

JinMTVT · 22nd November 2006, 03:11 AM

Hi Shino,

if i'd be to buy this driver from you ,
could you get another one for me
and send it with it at the same time ?

the price in canada is outrageous ...near 2000$CAD each

i don't know if you can accept paypal payments?

let me know ..might be interested!

JIN

jirka · 22nd November 2006, 10:36 AM

Have you ever had a chance to listen to Mangers in good setup?
Someone said it is theatre for blinds and I feel it the same, when I close my eyes.

Take good 35cm wide enclosure with 30cm depth and enough stuffing, take your favourite woofer with +-90dB sensitivity or active subwoofer, use +-100mikroF condensator before MSW and listen to great sound.

Relevant amplifier may be colourful 300B for small room but with something like Electrocompaniet or Audia Flight A50 the dynamic attack will be real. Dont use Manger with unmusical amps, it will sound very crude!

Mangers are not for huge SPL and excellent directivity but at moderate levels you will be surprised what detail even heavy metal recordings have.

With somethink like Holoprofile the directivity is not a problem. You can DIY.

This 1MSW offer is great for DIY center cannel.

ShinOBIWAN · 22nd November 2006, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JinMTVT
Hi Shino,

if i'd be to buy this driver from you ,
could you get another one for me
and send it with it at the same time ?

the price in canada is outrageous ...near 2000$CAD each

i don't know if you can accept paypal payments?

let me know ..might be interested!

JIN

Hey Jin

It looks to be around $2050 CAD for the driver I'm offering here plus a new one from Manger making a pair. This also includes shipping from the UK.

ShinOBIWAN · 22nd November 2006, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jirka
Have you ever had a chance to listen to Mangers in good setup?
Someone said it is theatre for blinds and I feel it the same, when I close my eyes.

Take good 35cm wide enclosure with 30cm depth and enough stuffing, take your favourite woofer with +-90dB sensitivity or active subwoofer, use +-100mikroF condensator before MSW and listen to great sound.

Relevant amplifier may be colourful 300B for small room but with something like Electrocompaniet or Audia Flight A50 the dynamic attack will be real. Dont use Manger with unmusical amps, it will sound very crude!

Mangers are not for huge SPL and excellent directivity but at moderate levels you will be surprised what detail even heavy metal recordings have.

With somethink like Holoprofile the directivity is not a problem. You can DIY.

This 1MSW offer is great for DIY center cannel.

Some good suggestions there.

ShinOBIWAN · 22nd November 2006, 01:34 PM

Being more specific about trades I'm looking for:

Any quality amplification but particularly interested in UcD stuff.

Any interesting driver(s) from the likes of Audio Technology, Scanspeak sliced papers, Accuton etc.

Top notch sub/woofer driver(s) from the likes of Adire, TC Sounds, Beyma LX60, TAD etc.

tinitus · 24th November 2006, 03:54 PM

Maybe you should look at the new HEMP drivers

ShinOBIWAN · 24th November 2006, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tinitus
Maybe you should look at the new HEMP drivers

Good thinking.

Even if they weren't to my liking I could smoke 'em. Could turn into a very expensive habbit though.

tinitus · 24th November 2006, 05:15 PM

Hemp...hamp....ha! ...ah yes...cannabis matrix.... how on earth did they get that idea in the first place

Seriously, I am vaiting for the 25" woofer

ShinOBIWAN · 24th November 2006, 08:19 PM

No one got any swaps?

This really is a unique sounding driver, certainly not without fault but for coherence, detail and sheer transparency its one of the best I've heard.

22nd November 2006, 02:07 AM	#1
ShinOBIWAN diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK	Manger MSW Bending Wave Driver Just a single Manger MSW. Not very often you see this driver in the classifieds. I'll cut all my usual BS and just get down to it. Info here: http://www.manger-audio.co.uk/manger...transducer.htm Specs: http://www.manger-audio.co.uk/PDFs/MSW_data_sheet.pdf White paper on how and why the Manger is unique: http://www.manger-audio.co.uk/PDFs/a...al_reality.pdf The driver has been used very briefly but its completely as new with original box and mountings/fittings. I bought it new direct from Manger UK 3 weeks ago at a cost of £515. Its got the usual 3 year Manger warranty too I've decide to knock DIY speakers on the head over Winter and start anew come spring time next year. So plans will probably change once again and the easiest option is to sell now and then buy when I'm ready again. I understand that even second hand these drivers are still very expensive so I wouldn't mind a trade for some DIY bits such as amp bits, sub drivers and what have you. If your interested in just the driver with a straight transaction then I'm wanting £400. BTW I also have detailed plans for the Manger Zerobox 103, 107 and 109. These include XO schematics, cutting lists and stuffing guides. These can be provided with the driver.

22nd November 2006, 10:36 AM	#3
jirka diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Czech Republic	Have you ever had a chance to listen to Mangers in good setup? Someone said it is theatre for blinds and I feel it the same, when I close my eyes. Take good 35cm wide enclosure with 30cm depth and enough stuffing, take your favourite woofer with +-90dB sensitivity or active subwoofer, use +-100mikroF condensator before MSW and listen to great sound. Relevant amplifier may be colourful 300B for small room but with something like Electrocompaniet or Audia Flight A50 the dynamic attack will be real. Dont use Manger with unmusical amps, it will sound very crude! Mangers are not for huge SPL and excellent directivity but at moderate levels you will be surprised what detail even heavy metal recordings have. With somethink like Holoprofile the directivity is not a problem. You can DIY. This 1MSW offer is great for DIY center cannel. __________________ Jirka

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22nd November 2006, 03:11 AM	#2
JinMTVT diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: MTL	Hi Shino, if i'd be to buy this driver from you , could you get another one for me and send it with it at the same time ? the price in canada is outrageous ...near 2000$CAD each i don't know if you can accept paypal payments? let me know ..might be interested! JIN

22nd November 2006, 01:34 PM	#6
ShinOBIWAN diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK	Being more specific about trades I'm looking for: Any quality amplification but particularly interested in UcD stuff. Any interesting driver(s) from the likes of Audio Technology, Scanspeak sliced papers, Accuton etc. Top notch sub/woofer driver(s) from the likes of Adire, TC Sounds, Beyma LX60, TAD etc.

24th November 2006, 03:54 PM	#7
tinitus diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005	Maybe you should look at the new HEMP drivers

24th November 2006, 05:15 PM	#9
tinitus diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005	Hemp...hamp....ha! ...ah yes...cannabis matrix.... how on earth did they get that idea in the first place Seriously, I am vaiting for the 25" woofer

24th November 2006, 08:19 PM	#10
ShinOBIWAN diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK	No one got any swaps? This really is a unique sounding driver, certainly not without fault but for coherence, detail and sheer transparency its one of the best I've heard.