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Old 15th April 2004, 12:06 AM   #21
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Yes, I received the cable. It's nice, I like it.
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Old 15th April 2004, 12:24 AM   #22
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Try it for twisted pair interconnects....its better than or on par with anything Ive heard.

Its waste to use it for speaker cable since you need so much of it (you need at least 8 runs for each speaker to make up for a 4mm2 cable) and besides that I wasnt able to tell the difference in that application between the Habia wire and regular OFC speaker cable.

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Old 15th April 2004, 12:26 AM   #23
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BTW, regarding the Habia cable you use as a LS cable, have you tried it as a twisted pair interconnect between your amp and preamp?


I should have sent you a few meters for experiments when I sent you the other pack....It could have been interesting.

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Old 15th April 2004, 12:51 AM   #24
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Magura, I found that my sound improved greatly, especially S/N, when I placed my wife in the freezer.
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Magura, I found that my sound improved greatly, especially S/N, when I placed my wife in the freezer.

Well, Ill make a test when my wife wakes up. Ill put her in the freezer, and see if there is a sonic difference if she wears a cotton shirt or a nylon shirt.

Will let you know what I found out tomorrow.

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Old 15th April 2004, 01:26 AM   #26
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BTW, regarding the Habia cable you use as a LS cable, have you tried it as a twisted pair interconnect between your amp and preamp?

Cheers,

I tried to make a pic with my webcam.

This is as good as it gets.

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Default I think Teflon sounds better than cotton

The minus thing I found about cotton dielectric was its greyish sounding and a slight audible grain. I heard this even after using the same cotton sleeve type you bought (originally used in old transformers, itīs then covered with beeīs wax or something isnīt it?). The conductor material I still use to make my own interconnect cables is jewelerīs 99,99% 0,5 mm (thatīs roughly 24awg) silver wire. At the time, about three years ago, I didnīt know where to find those cotton sleeves so I had to invent:
I remember one of my most sucsessful tries was made of... cotton shoe laces, the cheap, flat, crude(?) non tinted types. Just three wires braided like a PBJ, inside a bright red nautic rope terminated with w108s gave some Siltechs a marathon run for the money in a high-end shop .
Another thing that sounds great if not better as dielectric is polypropilene rope. Just remove the inner cord and fill the wire in, twist it and voila. If I remember, solid polyprop dielectric constant is about 2,2. But since itīs just rope, thereīs lots of air and itīs thicker walls than cotton shoe laces, or proper cotton sleeve, so it makes for a lower capacitance between wires.
I still like PTFE Teflon for ICs, no matter itīs an artifficial fiber, what measurings say, or what geommetry and conductor material is used . Thereīs something nice about the sound, more colourfull timbres, better bass resolution and an overall cohesion and control (BAHHH I gotta stop reading those magazines ), that I do not hear with cotton.

Just my 2c. Please share with us your results!
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Well, Ill make a test when my wife wakes up. Ill put her in the freezer, and see if there is a sonic difference if she wears a cotton shirt or a nylon shirt.

Will let you know what I found out tomorrow.

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Sorry guys, the test failed. Couldnt make my wife wear a nylon shirt


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I can understand. Nylon is hygroscopic and has pretty poor dielectric properties.
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Default Oh my, oh my....

Hi,

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Well, Ill make a test when my wife wakes up. Ill put her in the freezer, and see if there is a sonic difference if she wears a cotton shirt or a nylon shirt.
All along I thought it was the PICTURE that made all the difference...

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