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Old 14th April 2004, 07:01 PM   #11
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Cotton? I prefer NOS (That is New Old Stock) WWII (World War 2) rubber! Seems to be cotton on the outside.
Kuei Yang Bang would argue that NOS is a oxymoron
Hehehe. Yeah. Should perhaps call it UOS (Unused Old Stock).

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Old 14th April 2004, 07:06 PM   #12
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According to the dielectric constants chart at K-Tek, the dielectric constant of cotton is listed as 1.3 - 1.4 compared to Teflon's 2.0. Of course cotton is more hygroscopic than Teflon, so things will depend on the level of humidity.
You have to compare apples to apples. "Cotton" as supplied is basically a cellulose polymer that physically is mostly air. So the best comparison is either cellulose to PTFE or cotton to expanded PTFE (i.e., a foam).



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As far as im concerned, the only insulator thats better than teflon is glass.
From a dielectric point of view, glass is inferior to PTFE. I don't have the charts in front of me at the moment, but IIRC, the DF of glass was fairly poor.
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You have to compare apples to apples. "Cotton" as supplied is basically a cellulose polymer that physically is mostly air. So the best comparison is either cellulose to PTFE or cotton to expanded PTFE (i.e., a foam).
True. Personally I think the whole obsession with objective specs is really rather silly given that at the end of the day what counts is our subjective experience.

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Old 14th April 2004, 11:06 PM   #14
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Well, cotton seems to be a problem to get. I can reccommend the 2nd best. Put a photo of yourself in the freezer, it does wonders for the sound.


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I can reccommend the 2nd best. Put a photo of yourself in the freezer, it does wonders for the sound.
Actually, that might even work better.
But is it really ok to mention (let alone discuss) any of Peter Belt's ideas in this forum?
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Old 14th April 2004, 11:24 PM   #16
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Peter Belt??

Did he discover that putting a photo of my wife in the freezer will make bigger improvements?

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Have you recieved your pack Michi ?
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Did he discover that putting a photo of my wife in the freezer will make bigger improvements?
Why's that? Is she bigger than yourself then?

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Why's that? Is she bigger than yourself then?

Cheers,

Not yet, but menopause is still to come



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Hi,

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Not yet, but menopause is still to come
LOL....I suppose it's easier to make the picture smaller than the....


BTW, regarding the Habia cable you use as a LS cable, have you tried it as a twisted pair interconnect between your amp and preamp?

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Old 14th April 2004, 11:50 PM   #20
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Thats what im using right now

Works well, I am quite happy with it, and have been for more than a year by now.

The interconnects are one of the places I experienced night and day difference between skimpy and well made quality.


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