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Jimmy154 22nd December 2007 09:32 PM

Sonus Faber 6.5" woofers and cheap 3" fullrange and misc.
 
Sonus Faber 6.5" woofers:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/IMG_4983.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/IMG_4982.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/IMG_4981.jpg


Peerless tweeters, similar to these ones http://www.madisound.com/catalog/pro...oducts_id=1763 :

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/IMG_4984.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/IMG_4985.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...tweeter001.jpg


3" full-range, out of Cambridge Soundworks cube satellites:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/IMG_4987.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/IMG_4986.jpg


Useless 2" speaker, I'll put pics up for fun, I suppose :D :

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/IMG_4992.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/IMG_4991.jpg


Sonus Faber enclosure, don't know what to do with this:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/IMG_4990.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/IMG_4989.jpg

Yamaha T-320 digital tuner:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/DSCF1146.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...4/DSCF1147.jpg


Make me an offer if interested.

KBK 23rd December 2007 05:02 PM

Does the Sonus Faber woofer have a 'stressed', ie, non-centered position of the spyder? It looks like it does. Is this a result of a sagging suspension or is the normal position of the spyder and cone?

Jimmy154 23rd December 2007 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KBK
Does the Sonus Faber woofer have a 'stressed', ie, non-centered position of the spyder? It looks like it does. Is this a result of a sagging suspension or is the normal position of the spyder and cone?
:deer:

I think I know what you mean. If the cone faces up or towards the sky, it looks like the spider is lower or closer to the ground in the center than at its radius, correct?

:frosty:

They are both like this, so I would guess itís normal. Is that not a functionally optimum position?

:snowman2:

I donít know how much to ask for these woofers and it seems as if no one wants to make an offer, so how much should I ask for?

:deer:

kramster 24th December 2007 07:42 PM

6.5" woofers
 
Any idea what the specs are? Hard for anyone to use without them............. how much you asking?

Mark



Jimmy154 24th December 2007 09:38 PM

Re: 6.5" woofers
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kramster
Any idea what the specs are? Hard for anyone to use without them............. how much you asking?

Measuring the electrical, mechanical properties and frequency response of a driver is easy, in my opinion. And obtaining VAS is not too hard either. Calibrating my sound card was the hardest or most time consuming part of processes.

$50 shipped sound good or no? I think I might try UPS for the shipping, see how it goes. The post office got under my skin last time I mailed a package. Yarrr :Pirate:

kramster 24th December 2007 10:11 PM

OK
 
sure $50 shipped is okay, by whatever means............ send me a Paypal invoice........... I'll pm the e-mail.

kramster 24th December 2007 10:14 PM

Tonight
 
PS we are going out for family activities, but if you send an invoice, I'll pay later tonight..............:D

limono 25th December 2007 04:08 AM

Take an enclosure too . Have it cut in cabinetmaker shop in a half , put some base & front baffle and you have a pair of monitors with right volume for the woofers you just bought .Just a thought .Regards

KBK 25th December 2007 03:25 PM

The stressed spyder creates a point where in the 'neutral' position of the cone, there is less free play. This creates a more 'perfect' sounding midrange. This can also make bass sound more 'taught' or 'tight', or 'articulate' with ported boxes.

Though the specs and any measurements may indicate that such a driver is OK for sealed boxes, the dynamics in the bass are restricted and the whole exercise is thus useless, even though the midrange is just incredible. However, they are optimum for ported boxes, where the 'motional mass' considerations of the ported system dominate the equation of the motional dynamics. In a sealed box, the opposite is more true, and you need a softer suspension with more self excitation or resonance in the driver's overall behaviour. In the process of getting to a lower FS in a sealed box with the softer suspension, for obtaining a far more articulate bass than a ported box...you loose the incredible midrange, as you cannot use this kind of driver. Such is life. Always a compromise.

These woofers you have will make for a VERY musical speaker, that must be ported. Or, conversely, the drivers need to be used in a three-way with a sealed cavity for the mid-bass section.

I have four of the 5" size brand new C-Quenze drivers from Audio Technology (which Sonus Faber sometimes uses).

I had left them in the boxes for two years and wondered if they were broken! I guess they are not, so I can sell them now, with no worries that I'm ripping off the buyer.

Same for the 7" C-Quenze units I have. I can now sell them with no fears I'm ripping off the buyer, by selling them some bad drivers.

The woofers you have seem like they are customized Vifa units. The label and basket are identical to Vifa units, IIRC.

The perfect specification for these woofers is the Sonus Faber box air volume they came out of. This includes the port size and position as well.

Jimmy154 26th December 2007 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KBK
These woofers you have will make for a VERY musical speaker, that must be ported. Or, conversely, the drivers need to be used in a three-way with a sealed cavity for the mid-bass section.
I don't follow how you can use them in a 3-way, with a sealed chamber. Thought your whole point was that they shouldn't be used in a sealed chamber.

Quote:

Originally posted by KBK
The perfect specification for these woofers is the Sonus Faber box air volume they came out of. This includes the port size and position as well.
I was just going to copy the cross-over and use them in a 2-way ported box half the volume of 2.5-way they came in with a Vifa tweeter, if I didn't measure the specs.


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