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 14th May 2006, 07:22 AM #1 just a guy   diyAudio Member   Join Date: May 2006 please help with MJK's alignment tables Anyone familiar with this excellent piece of work? I am interested in learning how to design without software, at least for early planning of transmission line subwoofers. There are 4 tables. I understand the first table and the fourth table, regarding length and driver offset. I do not understand table 2 and 3 concerning dz and dr. I know they are used to calculate the shape but I don't even understand what shape function and resistance factor mean. I know I'm new here but please don't tell me to read the article again, as I've studied it for hours and don't get it.
 14th May 2006, 09:12 AM #2 owdi   diyAudio Member     Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bellevue, WA You find Dz by looking on table 2, because you have both frequency and sl/so. Once you have Dz you can solve for Dr using the last function on page 3. Dan
 14th May 2006, 05:44 PM #3 just a guy   diyAudio Member   Join Date: May 2006 Dan, thanks very much, but you are a bit above my level, I'm pretty new at this. Let's see if I understand what you are saying. Choosing any value in table 1 shows you the tuning frequency and SL/SO for that particular length. The corresponding spot on table two defines a value for dz. After this point it gets a bit fuzzy for me, probably mostly because I do not understand what shape function is or how it relates to what I am trying to do. You said "Once you have Dz you can solve for Dr using the last function on page 3." I thought we got dr from table 3, defined by the driver's qts. Did you maybe mean take the values for dr and dz from tables two and three and use them to solve the last equation on page 3 to determine area of the closed end? That would seem to make sense to me, because once you know SO you can calculate SL defined by the ratio chosen in table 1, and finally enough information to draw a design on paper. If I am keeping up so far, that means there is only one formula to solve, correct? There lies another problem, I only have grade 10 basic math. I could probably solve the equation, with the values of dr and dz from the table, the value of Re from driver specs (I assume), but what are the values of B, L and that symbol for acoustic impedance? And aside from the values, what are those 3 things? That's a lot, so I'll just shut up now and thank you in advance for your help.
 15th May 2006, 02:26 AM #4 xstephanx   diyAudio Member   Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: t-dot, canada ?!?!?! another 15 year old interested in high end audio in ontario?! it simply cant be, i thought i was the only one. sorry i cant help you with your question though, you are oviously beyond my level. __________________ CREEEAAAAAMMMMM CHEEEEEESSSSSSEEEEEEE!!!!! EEEEESSSSEEEEEEHC MMMMMAAAAAEEEERRCCC!!!!
 16th May 2006, 01:26 AM #5 just a guy   diyAudio Member   Join Date: May 2006 15 was half a lifetime ago but I was never good at math so I quit math after grade 10. I have a pretty good idea how to guess at proper size based on sd but it would be great to know how to use the tables to their full advantage.
 16th May 2006, 02:10 PM #6 just a guy   diyAudio Member   Join Date: May 2006 Maybe this question would be better suited for the full range part of the forum? I want to make subwoofers though, so I will leave it alone for awhile...
 16th May 2006, 09:33 PM #7 xstephanx   diyAudio Member   Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: t-dot, canada ahhhhhh, you could always get a math nerd friend to do it for you. __________________ CREEEAAAAAMMMMM CHEEEEEESSSSSSEEEEEEE!!!!! EEEEESSSSEEEEEEHC MMMMMAAAAAEEEERRCCC!!!!
 16th May 2006, 11:10 PM #8 qi diyAudio Member   Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: . just a guy Take a look at this thread... http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showt...731#post678731 There are two downloads in those posts. Planet10's download of an AlphaTL article by Rick Schultz (post 9) Give it a read GM's xls spreadsheet from the same article (post 11) Experiment with it (using the article). This is a "simpler" way of doing TLs It may help you get jump-started. You will see that you only need three driver TS parameters. Qts Vas Fs Also, be sure to review the following... http://www.t-linespeakers.org/design...ies/index.html http://www.diysubwoofers.org/ Sure hope this helps...
 17th May 2006, 06:28 AM #9 just a guy   diyAudio Member   Join Date: May 2006 Hi, qi, the article "Pearls from..." is an excellent resource and was the basis for trying to figure out the alignment tables. There are two reasons why I am not interested in MJK's full works at this time. First, if I can't manipulate the alignment tables I don't like my chances with the real deal. Second, my current project can't be modelled with his spreadsheets, but I'm still interested, even though my current project is past the planning stage I am interested in continuing to work with tl's. Looks like I have a lot of studying to do with the alpha article and playing with GM's spreadsheet. Thanks for the info.
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