ascendant audio "assassin" questions

peteS · 5th March 2006, 05:25 AM

http://www.ascendantaudio.com/assassin12specs.html

the price is right, but there stated t/s have been disputed before
anyone have any real life measurements of these

looks like a good one for dipoles h frame

crippledchicken · 5th March 2006, 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by peteS
http://www.ascendantaudio.com/assassin12specs.html

the price is right, but there stated t/s have been disputed before
anyone have any real life measurements of these

looks like a good one for dipoles h frame

i've been waiting to see some independant measurments also! i've been holding off on my possible, purchase for that very reason.

MarkR · 8th March 2006, 05:25 PM

I believe the previous disputes had more to do with the 2nd coil on the Atlas line.I think they didn't affect the t/s parameters exactly like they were supposed to. I have 3 Atlas subs and a friend that has one as well. I run mine with the 2nd coil shorted(low qts).
From what I have noticed the discrepencies doesn't affect the performance as far as I can tell anyway. I use them for HT.
Supposedly the Assassin's are better and that IS saying something. Also they do not have the 2nd coil set up so maybe not as big of a concern. So far I have never heard anyone who was unhappy with the Atlas line.
Bostonswoop just built a Assassin 12" HT sub maybe ask him how his is performing.

DcibeL · 9th March 2006, 02:47 PM

To add to what MarkR has said, the major dispute about the Atlas driver was the Le. With the odd second coil configuration, it is hard to tell just exactly how Ascendant measured such a low Le of 0.86mH for the Atlas. With the Assasin drivers, they are a common voice coil configuration, and an Le of 3.0mH is very realistic. I would trust that the T/S parameters of these new drivers are correct.

I own an Atlas 12" and run the second coil in series with the first for a load of 6Ohms. I haven't had any problems with the driver, and believe that it's worth every dollar I payed for it.

peteS · 9th March 2006, 05:15 PM

i just had a bad experience with a pair of avalanch 15" s

definitly interested anyones measurments

5th March 2006, 05:25 AM	#1
peteS diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mn	ascendant audio "assassin" questions http://www.ascendantaudio.com/assassin12specs.html the price is right, but there stated t/s have been disputed before anyone have any real life measurements of these looks like a good one for dipoles h frame

9th March 2006, 02:47 PM	#4
DcibeL diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Saskatchewan	To add to what MarkR has said, the major dispute about the Atlas driver was the Le. With the odd second coil configuration, it is hard to tell just exactly how Ascendant measured such a low Le of 0.86mH for the Atlas. With the Assasin drivers, they are a common voice coil configuration, and an Le of 3.0mH is very realistic. I would trust that the T/S parameters of these new drivers are correct. I own an Atlas 12" and run the second coil in series with the first for a load of 6Ohms. I haven't had any problems with the driver, and believe that it's worth every dollar I payed for it. __________________ The power of Science compels you!

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8th March 2006, 05:25 PM	#3
MarkR diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Nowhere Special, IL.	I believe the previous disputes had more to do with the 2nd coil on the Atlas line.I think they didn't affect the t/s parameters exactly like they were supposed to. I have 3 Atlas subs and a friend that has one as well. I run mine with the 2nd coil shorted(low qts). From what I have noticed the discrepencies doesn't affect the performance as far as I can tell anyway. I use them for HT. Supposedly the Assassin's are better and that IS saying something. Also they do not have the 2nd coil set up so maybe not as big of a concern. So far I have never heard anyone who was unhappy with the Atlas line. Bostonswoop just built a Assassin 12" HT sub maybe ask him how his is performing.

9th March 2006, 05:15 PM	#5
peteS diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mn	i just had a bad experience with a pair of avalanch 15" s definitly interested anyones measurments