Earthquake supernova $3400???

marcus555dc · 27th February 2006, 11:14 PM

When looking at earthquakes site I came accross this (15" model):

http://www.earthquakesound.com/supernova15.htm#chart

I was just wondering why it is so expensive ($3400)? It seems to be a 15" driver and a 15" SLAPS radiator powered by a 600 watt digi amp. Am i missing something huge here? The box is 21ish*17ish*17ish. People are selling it on ebay for $1600. That is the MKV-P. Does Earthquake have ridiculous MSRP's?

From prices I have seen on ebay and online retailers raw parts go as low as $200 for the 15" magma and mid $100's for the SLAPS Driver. So even on the high end say 300 and 175 you could make this subwoofer for:

sub and SLAPS: 475
plate amp: 350
materials: 50

at a high end price of 875.

on the low and probably more realistic side:

same order:
200+150=350
+300
+50

total $700.

So the main question is... Am I correct? Would $700 to make a supernova 15" be a good move (not that I want to) or for $700 could you make a sub that would kill this earthquake setup? Also, is it the same Magma driver used in car audio?

Thanks!

-Mark

simon5 · 27th February 2006, 11:22 PM

For 700$ you can make a real good subwoofer. I guess it would beat that setup yes.

mateo88 · 28th February 2006, 03:02 AM

You should be able to demolish that sub for $700, especially if you shop wisely.

boly · 28th February 2006, 06:49 AM

I for shoure, would used my money on this instead: http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-ultra2.cfm

nerd of nerds · 28th February 2006, 02:35 PM

I'd say 2 of the dayton 12" reference series woofers with a 1k watt plate amp would do nicely...

Your neighbors would probobly try and murder you tho

marcus555dc · 28th February 2006, 02:59 PM

so you think these 12's (svs and Dayton) would get louder than 2 15's? really?

here is the T/S of the Magma 15"

1500 Watts Max
FS=26Hz
Qms = 3.5313
Qes = 0.4603
Qts = 0.4072
VAS = 7.5Ft3
Xmax = 22
peak to peak= 3"
85dB 1W/1M
Revc = 6.78
Levc = 6.3mH @ (1 kHz)

nerd of nerds · 28th February 2006, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by marcus555dc
so you think these 12's (svs and Dayton) would get louder than 2 15's? really?

here is the T/S of the Magma 15"

1500 Watts Max
FS=26Hz
Qms = 3.5313
Qes = 0.4603
Qts = 0.4072
VAS = 7.5Ft3
Xmax = 22
peak to peak= 3"
85dB 1W/1M
Revc = 6.78
Levc = 6.3mH @ (1 kHz)

Sorry dude, i thought you were only using 1 15 incher...

In that case go for the 15s but i personally seem to think the daytons would have really low distortion and sound really good...esp 2 of em...

tade · 1st March 2006, 04:30 AM

I second nerd of nerds!

simon5 · 1st March 2006, 05:32 AM

To beat the Magna I would use two Acoustic Elegance AV15s.

Thiele Small parameters:
Fs (Hz) 22.39
Qms 5.293
Qes .517
Qts .471
VAS (ltrs) 140.1
Zn (ohm) 4
Re (ohm) 2.95
Le (mH) 3.5
Rms (Kg/s) 9.39
Mms (g) 353.3
Cms (mm/N) .143
Bl (N/A) 16.84
Sd (cm²) 830.6
2.83V SPL (dB) 91.15
Pe Cont (W) 500
Xmax (mm) 23
VC diam (mm) 2"
VC length (mm) 2.1"
Gap height (mm) .385"

Price = 180$ each.

marcus555dc · 2nd March 2006, 12:36 AM

yeah, those do look good, and are a great price! I dont want to build it, just start a good discussion and see how those subs compete with other DIY projects.

27th February 2006, 11:14 PM	#1
marcus555dc diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Washington	Earthquake supernova $3400??? When looking at earthquakes site I came accross this (15" model): http://www.earthquakesound.com/supernova15.htm#chart I was just wondering why it is so expensive ($3400)? It seems to be a 15" driver and a 15" SLAPS radiator powered by a 600 watt digi amp. Am i missing something huge here? The box is 21ish17ish17ish. People are selling it on ebay for $1600. That is the MKV-P. Does Earthquake have ridiculous MSRP's? From prices I have seen on ebay and online retailers raw parts go as low as $200 for the 15" magma and mid $100's for the SLAPS Driver. So even on the high end say 300 and 175 you could make this subwoofer for: sub and SLAPS: 475 plate amp: 350 materials: 50 at a high end price of 875. on the low and probably more realistic side: same order: 200+150=350 +300 +50 total $700. So the main question is... Am I correct? Would $700 to make a supernova 15" be a good move (not that I want to) or for $700 could you make a sub that would kill this earthquake setup? Also, is it the same Magma driver used in car audio? Thanks! -Mark

27th February 2006, 11:22 PM	#2
simon5 diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Québec, Québec	For 700$ you can make a real good subwoofer. I guess it would beat that setup yes. __________________ DIYaudio for President !

1st March 2006, 05:32 AM	#9
simon5 diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Québec, Québec	To beat the Magna I would use two Acoustic Elegance AV15s. Thiele Small parameters: Fs (Hz) 22.39 Qms 5.293 Qes .517 Qts .471 VAS (ltrs) 140.1 Zn (ohm) 4 Re (ohm) 2.95 Le (mH) 3.5 Rms (Kg/s) 9.39 Mms (g) 353.3 Cms (mm/N) .143 Bl (N/A) 16.84 Sd (cm²) 830.6 2.83V SPL (dB) 91.15 Pe Cont (W) 500 Xmax (mm) 23 VC diam (mm) 2" VC length (mm) 2.1" Gap height (mm) .385" Price = 180$ each. __________________ DIYaudio for President !

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28th February 2006, 03:02 AM	#3
mateo88 diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Argyle, Texas	You should be able to demolish that sub for $700, especially if you shop wisely.

28th February 2006, 06:49 AM	#4
boly diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Trondheim	I for shoure, would used my money on this instead: http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-ultra2.cfm

28th February 2006, 02:35 PM	#5
nerd of nerds diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: U.S.A.	I'd say 2 of the dayton 12" reference series woofers with a 1k watt plate amp would do nicely... Your neighbors would probobly try and murder you tho

28th February 2006, 02:59 PM	#6
marcus555dc diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Washington	so you think these 12's (svs and Dayton) would get louder than 2 15's? really? here is the T/S of the Magma 15" 1500 Watts Max FS=26Hz Qms = 3.5313 Qes = 0.4603 Qts = 0.4072 VAS = 7.5Ft3 Xmax = 22 peak to peak= 3" 85dB 1W/1M Revc = 6.78 Levc = 6.3mH @ (1 kHz)

1st March 2006, 04:30 AM	#8
tade diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ralieigh nc	I second nerd of nerds!

2nd March 2006, 12:36 AM	#10
marcus555dc diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Washington	yeah, those do look good, and are a great price! I dont want to build it, just start a good discussion and see how those subs compete with other DIY projects.

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