Better 12" Driver for this sealed sub?

birdwizard · 11th September 2005, 06:21 PM

Is it posible to simply replace the 12" driver on this sub
and get better performance?

http://www.morelusa.com/home/Phantom.htm

And what drivers would work for this application?

Heres the current driver:
http://www.morelusa.com/woofers/msw-12.1/msw-12.1.html

Tweeker · 12th September 2005, 01:01 AM

If the driver is upgraded, you need to be sure the passive radiator is up to it.

paulspencer · 12th September 2005, 04:57 AM

Yes it's possible, but it's even more possible if you have it to sell it and use the money to buy better drivers and build an optimal sub. A better driver with a well designed port could blow that thing away! IMO passive radiators are a waste of money that could have been spent on a better driver, they are really designed to get low bass in a box that is too small to fit a decent vent.

birdwizard · 13th September 2005, 06:31 AM

Thanks guys.

I'm looking more for information on a specific driver that would upgrade this particular sub. The PR seems pretty damn stout to me, but I dont know how to judge

Tweeker · 13th September 2005, 06:57 AM

The PR may well be nigh industructible, but if it runs out oftravel it runs out of travel.

miccomacho · 15th September 2005, 06:40 AM

Miä haluun corollaan supvuuverin. Minkä laitan? Jensseenin vai autostudion?

birdwizard · 15th September 2005, 06:40 AM

Wow, I thought you guys would have some suggestions.

Am I being discriminated against because Im not building it myself, lol

How about this driver:
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshow...=297-608&DID=7

simon5 · 15th September 2005, 04:18 PM

I would use an AV12 from Acoustic Elegance because of the lower Vas but business is stopped over there it seems.

A Peerless XXLS12 would do the trick too. I hope your passive radiator will be up to the task!

Peter Menting · 15th September 2005, 04:40 PM

What's wrong with the sub that you have now? Or, more to the point, what are you trying to achieve with the upgraded driver? A Morel driver in a pretty solid looking box, with a PR tuned to 17hz.sounds pretty attractive, what are you looking to gain?

Pete

birdwizard · 16th September 2005, 06:53 AM

I was hoping to get higher spl's below 25hz and deeper extension. The enclosure is rock solid and the passive radiator is a beast. But the driver seems wimpy in comparison.

Also, I guess I have a mild case of driver envy looking
at all of the awesome drivers out there

As far as the XXLS12 goes. How would I determine if the Morel PR
can handle it?

11th September 2005, 06:21 PM	#1
birdwizard diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Im from Sark	Better 12" Driver for this sealed sub? Is it posible to simply replace the 12" driver on this sub and get better performance? http://www.morelusa.com/home/Phantom.htm And what drivers would work for this application? Heres the current driver: http://www.morelusa.com/woofers/msw-12.1/msw-12.1.html

12th September 2005, 04:57 AM	#3
paulspencer diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia	Yes it's possible, but it's even more possible if you have it to sell it and use the money to buy better drivers and build an optimal sub. A better driver with a well designed port could blow that thing away! IMO passive radiators are a waste of money that could have been spent on a better driver, they are really designed to get low bass in a box that is too small to fit a decent vent. __________________ AUDIO BLOG \| Bass integration guide My work: www.redspade.com.au web design studio

15th September 2005, 04:18 PM	#8
simon5 diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Québec, Québec	I would use an AV12 from Acoustic Elegance because of the lower Vas but business is stopped over there it seems. A Peerless XXLS12 would do the trick too. I hope your passive radiator will be up to the task! __________________ DIYaudio for President !

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12th September 2005, 01:01 AM	#2
Tweeker diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	If the driver is upgraded, you need to be sure the passive radiator is up to it.

13th September 2005, 06:31 AM	#4
birdwizard diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Im from Sark	Thanks guys. I'm looking more for information on a specific driver that would upgrade this particular sub. The PR seems pretty damn stout to me, but I dont know how to judge

13th September 2005, 06:57 AM	#5
Tweeker diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio	The PR may well be nigh industructible, but if it runs out oftravel it runs out of travel.

15th September 2005, 06:40 AM	#6
miccomacho diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: st. michel, finland	Miä haluun corollaan supvuuverin. Minkä laitan? Jensseenin vai autostudion?

15th September 2005, 04:40 PM	#9
Peter Menting diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Blackstone VA	What's wrong with the sub that you have now? Or, more to the point, what are you trying to achieve with the upgraded driver? A Morel driver in a pretty solid looking box, with a PR tuned to 17hz.sounds pretty attractive, what are you looking to gain? Pete

16th September 2005, 06:53 AM	#10
birdwizard diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Im from Sark	I was hoping to get higher spl's below 25hz and deeper extension. The enclosure is rock solid and the passive radiator is a beast. But the driver seems wimpy in comparison. Also, I guess I have a mild case of driver envy looking at all of the awesome drivers out there As far as the XXLS12 goes. How would I determine if the Morel PR can handle it?

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