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Old 21st May 2005, 06:32 AM   #1
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Hi everyone!

I'm not sure if this is the right place to put this question, but here it comes

What's the optimal size of the sub for Techno, Trance, etc. (fast transient) kind of music? I know someone who has a 2x12" vented subs, but fast music (techno, etc.) sounds like cr*p on it (the drum is delayed and it sounds terrible). It's quite good for Rap and R&B though, but I don't care about those. I just want the drum and the base to be heard (heh, at 150bpm ).

I though of maybe 2x8" or 2x10", but what's the best in your opinion. It's gonna be vented, coz the quality is better than closed.

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Old 21st May 2005, 06:51 AM   #2
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For good transient response, i hear that you need a low group delay. For a ported box, that probably means a large enclosure tuned low. A sealed enclosure tends to have the lowest group delay.
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Old 21st May 2005, 07:44 AM   #3
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Oh, so for fast transients, it's better with sealed than vented... I though that sealed was bad

What about the actual speaker size?
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Old 21st May 2005, 07:56 AM   #4
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Just how large can you tolerate?

Do you need to XO high up? Otherwise you might do better to buy a single larger woofer.
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Old 21st May 2005, 09:42 AM   #5
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Sealed box, system Q about 0.9, box tuned to slight peak at 50Hz. 15" pro driver, like one of the Eminence or PAudio ones.

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Old 21st May 2005, 09:49 AM   #6
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Default Re: Optimal Techno sub...

Originally posted by theimperia
It's gonna be vented, coz the quality is better than closed.
In most cases vented vrs sealed is a quantity vrs quality thing. Myself i like lots of quality so build TLs or aperiodic boxes mostly.

I also always like to use a pair of woofers push-push (and stereo if i can). In terms of bass quality, usually the less stresses a woofer is the better it will sound. so a pr of (good) 15s is going to outdo a pr of 12s, on & on. But a smaller woofer usually has a better HF performance making it easier to blend with the high range speaker... so as you can see you have to juggle all sorts of things (including busget)

I've finally accumulated enuff drivers for my next sub project. 8 12". I'll give up half the volume displacement to gain small box size and push-push-push-pull to maximize the quality i can get out of the vintage extended range woofers.

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Old 21st May 2005, 01:36 PM   #7
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HD15 horns would be best for the kick drum thump of techno.

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Old 21st May 2005, 06:18 PM   #8
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You'll have to place it a little out from the back wall


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Old 21st May 2005, 06:26 PM   #9
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Or for a more realistic budget, build something like this
Using this:
and techno away


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