Did someone else than me noticed the sudden jump into high-end made by Adire Audio?

[simon5]

Did someone else than me noticed the sudden jump into high-end made by Adire Audio?

10 inches lineup start at 160$.
12 inches lineup start at 180$.
15 inches lineup start at 200$.
18 inches lineup start at 500$.

Lower power handling, higher Fs, lower Xmax, not even XBL^2...
(Except the 18 incher got the same power handling, higher Xmax and lower Fs, still not using XBL^2 anyway)

I'm a bit disappointed, the only good thing is lower Vas for these 4 woofers compared to the 4 they are replacing.

They got a new monster too, a 18 inches Tumult with 33 mm Xmax, but at 750$ I can't afford it right now!

[saramac]

The prices do seem high.

[BassAwdyO]

I have to say I am a bit dissapointed by the new Tumults. Only 1000watts power handling and a hair less excursion. Not to mention a $200 increase in price from the original tumult to what seems to be its eqivilant, the tumult15d2.

And where did all the pictures go on the adire website?

I'm not in the market for any subs right now, but if I were I'd probably go with Ascendant's Avalanche 18.

[KBK]

Adire appears to be moving upward and onward. Absolutely nothing wrong with that!

[jdybnis]

I think the price changes are a reflection of Adire's switch to a dealer driven sales model vs. an internet direct model. Using dealers they have to raise the MSRP to make the same profit on a driver after the dealers take their cut. But also Adire can't undercut their dealers by selling the drivers cheaper direct on the internet. Who knows if at the end Adire is actually making more per driver than before?

[bossobass]

I'm sure no dealer will be asking those MSRPs for any of the new Adire drivers.

I'm also sure that Adire decided to go very conservative with PMax numbers because of what seems to be an apparent problem of consumers who mistake thermal limit specs to mean required power, regardless of application.

The new 15" Tummy has a lower Fs, requires a larger box...basically the same FR for 2.5 cubes sealed L/T. Even at 50% off the new MSRP, the Avalanche 15 is the driver to buy...looks like.

I'm also suffering from anticappointment at the moment, I must admit.

Who's gonna be the first to bang one together and post results?

Dan, if you're reading this, send 2 out. Within 3 days I'll have single and dual sealed L/T graphs posted along with subjectives galore...for better or for worse.

Bosso

[Tweeker]

Lovely phenomenom you see in high end retail- if it costs more, some people think it must be better. Avalanche is too cheap to be any good.

[JWFokker]

So what's the new preferred budget 12" sub? I was PLANNING on getting a Shiva, but now that they've jacked up the price what else is there? I'd heard mention of a 12" Ascendant sub that was a good value but I'm not familiar with the brand.

[Tweeker]

15s are a much better value if you can possibly make the room. Ascendant Audio Atlas series are very good value XBL2 subs. 12" is $145 for 1.73L displacement, 15" is $160 for 2.91L. The 15 doesnt take any more power to drive. The Atlas drivers have fairly high efficiency and dont need much juice.

[hooha]

Originally posted by JWFokker
So what's the new preferred budget 12" sub? I was PLANNING on getting a Shiva, but now that they've jacked up the price what else is there? I'd heard mention of a 12" Ascendant sub that was a good value but I'm not familiar with the brand.

I'm with you on this one. I too have been waiting, and was taken back a bit by the pricing. I'll have to see what the end result is through the Canadian distributor. The suggested pricing on their site is making me look at the Ascentant product as well...

Mark