shivas sub& bass boost circuit

busterno1 · 31st August 2004, 07:03 AM

I am planning on building a sub using a shivas sub driver in the 88.5 ltr sealed box .

my plate amp has a bass boost circuit of 6db @ 35 hz . is this going to cause me any problems .

Is there a way to disable it or lower it . the plate amp is from jaycar
http://www1.jaycar.com.au/productResults.asp?FORM=CAT

the same as these . but different amount of output

mikee12345 · 31st August 2004, 08:28 AM

with winisd PRO + update you can see the resultant response with EQ

Depending on what the response is,and what you like,it may or may not give you what you want.

Yes there is a way to disable it.
search in yahoo for 'critical q subwoofer'

noodle_snacks · 31st August 2004, 08:38 AM

What is the Q of the eq on the jaycar amp??

busterno1 · 31st August 2004, 08:52 AM

I have no idea what the Q is . sorry

also how do i allow for the 6db boost in winisd pro ??

noodle_snacks · 31st August 2004, 10:05 AM

I am not sure but if you are using a shiva (I am using a tempest, already have it, just finished the box) you can use lspcad which is a bit more comprehensive. After re-creating your alignment in lsp cad go to the "box/filter/eq" menu and go to equaliser, you will get the predicted effects of the equaliser.

I am guessing you know what the frequency and boost amount is (35hz and 6db), You could say that the Q is the "width" of the boost with the lower the number the wider the area that it affects. For the jaycar amp i would stick it at around 1 for an estimate.

mikee12345 · 1st September 2004, 05:31 AM

Its sallenkey EQ as far as i know,the Q isnt adjustable.

Only the Frequency and magnitude.

LSP cad isnt free?

WIth signal generator and oscilloscope you could measure it and plot :-)

also how do i allow for the 6db boost in winisd pro ??

If you downloaded the PATCH also,on the driver box,theres an EQ tab.

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~joera..._technical.htm

Note that -12db at 10hz is slightly helpful for preventing ported overexcursion(but maynot be enough at extreme power levels)

noodle_snacks · 1st September 2004, 06:43 AM

lspCad is free for adire drivers:

http://www.adireaudio.com/TextPages/...eFrameText.htm

busterno1 · 1st September 2004, 08:02 AM

according to adire audio . I should not use this plate amp on a shivas .

didn't say why. have asked why

31st August 2004, 07:03 AM	#1
busterno1 diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: brisbane queensland	shivas sub& bass boost circuit I am planning on building a sub using a shivas sub driver in the 88.5 ltr sealed box . my plate amp has a bass boost circuit of 6db @ 35 hz . is this going to cause me any problems . Is there a way to disable it or lower it . the plate amp is from jaycar http://www1.jaycar.com.au/productResults.asp?FORM=CAT the same as these . but different amount of output

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31st August 2004, 08:28 AM	#2
mikee12345 diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NZ	with winisd PRO + update you can see the resultant response with EQ Depending on what the response is,and what you like,it may or may not give you what you want. Yes there is a way to disable it. search in yahoo for 'critical q subwoofer'

31st August 2004, 08:38 AM	#3
noodle_snacks diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hobart, Tasmania	What is the Q of the eq on the jaycar amp??

31st August 2004, 08:52 AM	#4
busterno1 diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: brisbane queensland	I have no idea what the Q is . sorry also how do i allow for the 6db boost in winisd pro ??

31st August 2004, 10:05 AM	#5
noodle_snacks diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hobart, Tasmania	I am not sure but if you are using a shiva (I am using a tempest, already have it, just finished the box) you can use lspcad which is a bit more comprehensive. After re-creating your alignment in lsp cad go to the "box/filter/eq" menu and go to equaliser, you will get the predicted effects of the equaliser. I am guessing you know what the frequency and boost amount is (35hz and 6db), You could say that the Q is the "width" of the boost with the lower the number the wider the area that it affects. For the jaycar amp i would stick it at around 1 for an estimate.

1st September 2004, 05:31 AM	#6
mikee12345 diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NZ	Its sallenkey EQ as far as i know,the Q isnt adjustable. Only the Frequency and magnitude. LSP cad isnt free? WIth signal generator and oscilloscope you could measure it and plot :-) also how do i allow for the 6db boost in winisd pro ?? If you downloaded the PATCH also,on the driver box,theres an EQ tab. http://members.ozemail.com.au/~joera..._technical.htm Note that -12db at 10hz is slightly helpful for preventing ported overexcursion(but maynot be enough at extreme power levels)

1st September 2004, 06:43 AM	#7
noodle_snacks diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hobart, Tasmania	lspCad is free for adire drivers: http://www.adireaudio.com/TextPages/...eFrameText.htm

1st September 2004, 08:02 AM	#8
busterno1 diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: brisbane queensland	according to adire audio . I should not use this plate amp on a shivas . didn't say why. have asked why

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