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Old 28th January 2012, 01:44 PM   #311
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Ops, should be ~10 Hz

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just one more question ! what would be the diameter and the length of the Pvc port pipe ?

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Old 28th January 2012, 03:27 PM   #312
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Hi b

just one more question ! what would be the diameter and the length of the Pvc port pipe ?

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The internal port is L= 24 cm, Internal diameter = 10 cm.

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Old 29th January 2012, 07:15 AM   #313
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The internal port is L= 24 cm, Internal diameter = 10 cm.

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i am attaching the plan suggested by you.

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Old 30th January 2012, 07:56 PM   #314
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Hi b,

i am attaching the plan suggested by you.

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Hi Abhi,

Sorry, almost missed your answer...

You've got it right!

Note: The internal panel = 1B in your drawing has a thickness of 21 mm.. as I can see :If using 18 mm here too would not alter the performance of this box ..
You need also to internally brace the box ,random irregularly cross-bracing should work just fine.
I would spray-glue a~ 1/4" wool felt internally ,at least on the insides of the rear panels.. Covering all internal panels would too be a good idea as a lot of energy is transfered to the wood..
You really don't want to hear any localization cues from a sub like this one. I would definitively place this sub as close to a corner as possible.. with the driver and port preferably oriented close to the floor level.

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Old 31st January 2012, 05:47 AM   #315
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Thanks b

I'll take care of bracings and be using glue at proper places..

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Old 31st January 2012, 11:15 PM   #316
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Really looking to see how this turns out!
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Old 15th February 2012, 06:34 PM   #317
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excellent looking design Bjono!
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Old 16th February 2012, 12:40 PM   #318
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excellent looking design Bjono!
Hi freddi,

Thank you freddie
I noticed that in post #307:Picture #1 is posted by a mistake.
Here is the correct one:

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Old 16th August 2012, 12:58 AM   #319
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Hi Guys,

My first post. Wow what a thread! I don’t know quite where to begin…..
Hope that this will not be considered “off topic”?
But I will finally get around to the point when I telephoned THE Mr Graham Holliman!

Around 23 years ago when I was the tender age of 23, I met a friend who was a loudspeaker designer.

Till then I had just been blindly tinkering with loudspeakers, both hi-fi & PA.

My new friend, Geoff was at a completely different level. Geoff was 19 years my senior and he became my greatest mentor & friend. Sadly he passed away last Christmas Eve, probably taking far too much knowledge with him.

Geoff had an amazing pair of hideous looking prototype hi-fi speakers which always amazed me, they sounded far superior to anything I had ever heard, even at Abbey Road Studios.

Over the years I learned that they were based upon Graham Holliman’s design. At least should I say the Sub-bass element.

Geoff had followed the detailed build instructions in the Hi-fi World article (think it was 1974 & I can scan & post).

Geoff had a great knack of thinking laterally, so had turned the Holliman enclosure on its end, on a floor stand so that the 15-inch driver faced the back wall. He then inserted an extra 15-inch upper bass driver, a 6.5-inch mid driver & tweeter array into the front, in what had been the bottom. He multiplied this twice & he had a stereo, true full-range monitoring system.

This he had achieved before I met him, I cannot express how good this sounded, so extremely quick with a very smooth response with an utterly clean never ending bass extension to die for. Totally musical and plenty of boogieing SPL for a living room.

Over the years I learnt more as you do, & with Geoff’s help along the way I later formed a PA company which in turn became a small bespoke PA loudspeaker manufacturer, this then resulted in me having company facilities like open doors to driver manufacturers. Oh to be a kid in the sweet shop again.

The highlight of this great adventure was with Geoff’s help we designed a ground-breaking high powered club system in the early 1990’s which utilised a different band-pass sub bass cabinet that pumped out over 135dBA , flat down to 20 cycles and below if I switched off the safety filter! This bespoke installation was at Turnmills club, home of Trade. At the time it really kicked the established PA brands and the club’s main competitor, The Ministry Of Sound.

I helped Geoff with many mods to his Holliman’s over the years which included all manner of drivers, crossovers and tweaking. Many happy hours were spent listening and discussing the merits of our tweaks. We even joked about booking a room at the Heathrow Hi-fi Show with the Holliman’s under an acoustically transparent dustsheet just to throw the cats amongst the pigeons.

We had always wondered why Graham Holliman he had not pursued the design further. We discussed this in great detail including the totally unfair dismissal he had received from the hi-fi industry. It had been a witch hunt and burning. I had always sensed that Geoff had felt a little guilty over poaching Graham’s design, although it had been published for personal use.

We were always going to make a finished, veneered pair for each of us with a stock pile of the next round of drivers that we had spent years choosing and gathering. Sadly that was not to be.

The good news for me is that Geoff’s speakers are safe and have been left to me so that I can keep them alive & moving forward with our original plan. I just need to make space to accommodate them in my lounge. (Can’t wait)

When I arranged Geoff’s funeral, when going through his “loudspeaker” phone book I found Graham Holliman’s telephone number, thought it rude not to call really although it did seem odd that Geoff had never mentioned speaking to him.
Mr Holliman could not remember Geoff, but was a really cool guy to speak with. We spoke for a good while and Mr Holliman & I left things hanging so that I could call again, which I would thoroughly enjoy. We did talk about getting together for him to have a listen. OH WHAT AN HONOUR!

So you now know why I have been living in a parallel universe, having read this thread back to 2004 today.

I am so pleased that Mr Holliman is still provoking interest & debate to this day, I can only tell you that I have been told by others that I have “golden ears” and believe me, I’m not a boom & tiss kind of guy at home.

His design is the best I have ever heard, yes there is debate because the available technology around 40 years ago was very limited, particularly in the bass & elctronics department. I know that from my own experience in the 90’s when we were pushing the design envelope and constantly taking drivers back to where they were made and asking for design changes.

It wasn’t until relatively recently when advanced & high temperature materials, low resonant frequencies & high Xmax have become the norm for high end bass products.

For those wanting to know what drivers Geoff had used; the default had been some vintage Audax 15 inch units which had been mass loaded with bitumen sheet. We were next planning to try some Precision Devices 158’s, which we sensed would be an upgrade.

Our general consensus was that the cabinets were not too driver fussy, nor did he have to close doors & windows for the full effect. So I guess this suggests that following the cabinet design accurately and maintaining construction quality is more important than with most designs.

I remember Geoff stating that when I remade the cabinets that I should use the thinnest/strongest sheet material for the loading aperture ring. I have noticed that some of you appear to have used hardboard? this I think could be flapping/ trying to tear itself apart when level is increased?

I should also state that the ultra-sub bandwidth was actively driven via large mono-blocks via a studio quality Tannoy crossover with 24dB/octave slope to filter nasty out of band break up. And obviously there was room gain by the fact that the speakers backed into the corners.

I can remember the day we wired one up to a 2 watt transistor FM radio, the result was quite amazing, and so I think it fair to say there’s no problem with efficiency that is in the mid to upper 90’s

I now look forward to installing Geoff’s Holliman’s and reading through his notes and returning here for any more gratefully received and shared wisdom before I draw up the next version of cabinets. If anybody has any doubt, you are most welcome to visit and make your own opinion.

Thank you Geoff and thank you Graham.

PS Does that qualify for the third or fourth known working cabinet?http://cdn1.dastatic.com/forums/imag...s/scratch1.gif
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The highlight of this great adventure was with Geoff’s help we designed a ground-breaking high powered club system in the early 1990’s which utilised a different band-pass sub bass cabinet that pumped out over 135dBA , flat down to 20 cycles and below if I switched off the safety filter! This bespoke installation was at Turnmills club, home of Trade. At the time it really kicked the established PA brands and the club’s main competitor, The Ministry Of Sound.
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