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Old 9th April 2002, 07:58 PM   #1
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Question Help!!!! Need Help With Painting!

OK IN MY OTHER THREAD I HAVE MENTIONED THIS......
I HAVE CONSTRUCTED A MDF SUBWOOFER ENCLOSURE AND I NEED TO PAINT THE SUCKER.....
I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME INDEPTH HOW-TO'S ETHER POSTS OR LINKS TO WEBSITES......

I NEED HELP.....

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Old 9th April 2002, 10:45 PM   #2
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Default Painting MDF

I have a friend who is a cabinate maker and he advises mixing white carpenters glue with water, paint the mdf and let it dry. Then paint with whatever paint you desire. You can experiment with the proportion. This seems to work well and it seals the end grain of the mdf which can become feathery.
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Old 10th April 2002, 02:43 PM   #3
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Default Painting MDF

First, we're right here, no need to shout. Secondly, I'm not speaking from experience, just from what I've read about MDF in woodworking forums. (My more active hobby)

I don't know about mixing wood glue with paint, that just sounds odd, but I would definately recommend priming it with at least two coats of primer, and figure on at least two coats of paint. MDF sucks up any finish like you wouldn't believe. Also, depending on where you're located, you could try talking to people at a local paint store or, if you're feeling masochistic, you could try your local Home Depot/Lowes and see if they have a clue. (Not too likely, if you ask me)

Good luck, and let us know if you need more help!

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Old 10th April 2002, 07:36 PM   #4
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Default mdf preparation

You mix the wood glue with water to thin it. Paint it on and let it dry. Then you paint it with the finish of choice.
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Old 10th April 2002, 08:55 PM   #5
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As the other folks said, the main issue with MDF is that it needs to be sealed well because of its absorbative nature. Using primer will work, but will require quite a few coats before it'll be even.

Sanding sealer has worked well for me - two coats usually seals the box completely and primer goes on quite evenly over it (it is just a form of polyurethane after all). There is some info on different types of sealers at:

http://www.taunton.com/finewoodworking/pages/w00001.asp

Also, head over to WoodWeb.com and search the Finishing knowledge base and Finishing forum for "mdf" and you'll find some good information on working with the stuff. The site is aimed at professionals so much of the specific paint/spraying recommendations don't apply, but the general info is good.

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Old 10th April 2002, 08:55 PM   #6
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If you paint it with the so called 'boat paint' used for polyester sailboats and speedboats this will result in a nice piano-look finish. Another advantage is this paint is extremely durable and gives good protection against scratching, fluids and so on.
Only keep in mind it will cost a bit more than 'ordinary'.
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Old 10th April 2002, 10:54 PM   #7
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more info would be nice......

if ya got the time please post some more tips and links,,,,,


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Old 11th April 2002, 03:01 PM   #8
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hers what i think i am going to do....
will this give me a good finish?

4 coats sanding sealer.........let dry compleatly & light sanding between coats....

6 coats gray sanding primer (oil based).........let dry compleatly & light sanding between each coat....

6 coats black enamal (oil based)........let dry compleatly & light sanding between each coat....

3 coats clear gloss coat (oil based).....let dry compleatly & light sanding between each coat....


is this right?
please make segestions for sanding and grit of paper.....
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Old 13th April 2002, 08:58 AM   #9
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Default Sealing MDF

If you want to seal MDF dont use paint...PVA(wood glue!) works ok but it isnt water proof so the MDF can still absorb water.
I have found(thru diy car audio)that fibreglass resin is the best perminate sealer/water proofer for MDF, paint the bare cut ends first with a brush wait till it dries sand back, then use a spray gun to coat the whole thing, two coats is plenty(can use a brush...but will involve lots of sanding to get smooth eg. no brush marks!)
The resin offers excelent adheasion for paint too, just remember wear a resiprator and clean out the spray gun when in between coats!!!(acetone)
Ps, if using spray gun for resin try to get a gun with a 1.8mm+ nozzle(its a enamel paint gun, not a acrylic one)prefably a gravity fed gun(over head paint pot)
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Default "Boat paint"

Hmm...that's exactly what I want on my system...I'm all ears. Sanding, primer (?), what is required?? I'm building a full-range system for a business project (Marketing) and need a demo system in two weeks. I'm using my BOSE spatial receiver for the amp. and a four driver full-range system with a quarter fold wave that exits through a port on the back. I'm just picking up ideas and parts now...my largest concern is the painting...what should I do to get that piano finish or, atleast a good looking finish?
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