Port location in/on a sub

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An oft-repeated rule of thumb is that the port should be some distance away from an inner edge, e.g. one port diameter away. Is there some real substance to this tribal knowledge? If valid, what is the effect when the port is located too close to an inner edge or wall?

I'm working with a small design and it is quite difficult to get the right spacing around the port. The port is external but the the opening is almost adjacent to a wall.

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Too close and the local boundary condition makes the vent acoustically longer, larger, so lowers tuning and why shelf vents can be so short even though they are typically larger than need be to keep from compressing at high power. In your case then, a shelf or round, square or triangular corner vent is the way to go.

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Shelf vents should be used for all vented subwoofers, end of story :).

The big advantage they bring, apart from large port area, is that the "shelf" serves as additional bracing for the box, something that traditional tube vents do not provide.
They also make construction more complicated. Also, tuning the port after the enclosure is assembled is more difficult.
 
Image attached. The short vent is a 3" SCH40 PVC pipe, the other one is 4".
 

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They also make construction more complicated. Also, tuning the port after the enclosure is assembled is more difficult.

How so? Only one more or two more panels are needed, and these can be cut from the same strip that's used to produce the front and back panels. And all can be cut with the same circle saw. Try cutting a hole in a box with a circle saw :).

As for tuning, if you want to adjust it, just make part of the internal panel removable. Tune by trimming the panel, then glue it permanently into place when tuning is complete (or leave it removable to allow future tweaking).

Oh, and I forgot - using a shelf vent is usually cheaper too - no extra vent to buy.
 
How so? Only one more or two more panels are needed, and these can be cut from the same strip that's used to produce the front and back panels. And all can be cut with the same circle saw. Try cutting a hole in a box with a circle saw :).

As for tuning, if you want to adjust it, just make part of the internal panel removable. Tune by trimming the panel, then glue it permanently into place when tuning is complete (or leave it removable to allow future tweaking).

Oh, and I forgot - using a shelf vent is usually cheaper too - no extra vent to buy.
I don't cut straight pieces. The more pieces I need from the same board, the worse the assembly gets.

Anyway, this box has external vents for a reason. I need them to stick out the front as much as possible.
 
Not sure what you're doing there, but you should be using a slot port in any compact design. It is the most space efficient, making it much easier to accomidate a larger surface area. Having the port interact with the wall is a positive thing, it make the port act longer, thus it can be sized larger and shorter.
 
...you should be using a slot port in any compact design...
Yeah, what turbodawg said.

Really compact boxes simply do not lend themselves to fitting big enough port, especially flared ones. To fit a tube port, you end up making the diameter smaller so that it fits, which is not good.

Why are you not cutting straight? I know wood is not as perfect as it used to be, but you sound in a bad way. How are you cutting?
 
Yeah, what turbodawg said.

Really compact boxes simply do not lend themselves to fitting big enough port, especially flared ones. To fit a tube port, you end up making the diameter smaller so that it fits, which is not good.

Why are you not cutting straight? I know wood is not as perfect as it used to be, but you sound in a bad way. How are you cutting?
Crappy table saw, usually. I tried a sawboard once and I'm not that good with a circular saw, either.
 
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