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Old 26th November 2003, 10:39 AM   #11
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Hi all. Coincidentally I was looking at Tempests on the Web just earlier today! They certainly look the part. Michael, is the Shiva AUD$300 ?? I was looking at an Aus site and this bloke reckons a Tempest cost about AUD$450. I hope not. I'll email them and see. Thanks for the replies/observations. BTW, the Tempest's efficiency was a bit ordinary I thought.
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Yes the shiva is $300, and the tempest is a nasty $450. Being the only distributer of adire stuff i think they jack the prices up a heap
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Old 26th November 2003, 11:00 AM   #13
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ok here is what john from accoustic concepts sent me when i asked for prices
> Shiva $272.50 plus GST
> Tempest $385.00 Plust GST
> Maelstrom $765.00 plus GST
> Brahma 10" $780.00 plus GST
> Brahma 12" $850.00 Plus GST
> Brahma 15" $995.00 plus GST
> PR-15 $235.oo plus GST
> AV-8 $186.00 plus GST

> Freight costs Eastern States $17.00 per speaker/Redgum amp, WA and NT
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> per speaker/redgum amp.
> Brahma/Maelstrom freight add $25.00.


and yes they are all australian prices, oh and you could dodge the delivery costs of you live in melbourne, they will allow pick up, that is what a friend of mine did.

And dont worry they actually have fair prices, not jacked up, us 125 and here 285, so only slight "jacking" and this is probly due to shipping from US to Aust.
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Old 26th November 2003, 11:06 AM   #14
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BTW, the Tempest's efficiency was a bit ordinary I thought.
I think you'll find most (if not all) long throw subs will have lousy efficiency, most of the voice coil is either side of the magnetic gap, the price you pay for high x-max at low distortion (no such thing as a free lunch )
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Old 26th November 2003, 11:19 AM   #15
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Two by 300L boxes!!! that's almost bigger than my old bedsit in Balmain!!!!

Hope you have a big living room

What you got in mind for the selected track I can think of a few:

Dire Straights Private Investigations

The first four tracks of The Wall (especially the helicopters)

The heartbeat at the begining of Dark side of the moon.

You can probably tell I'm a Pink Floyd fan

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Old 26th November 2003, 12:15 PM   #16
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Two by 300L boxes!!! that's almost bigger than my old bedsit in Balmain!!!!
Yeah, well I've got two 245L boxes at the moment (detailed somewhere else on diyaudio). They were actually a long term sneaky plan by me to get my wife used to the idea of REAL subs. They are not that good compared with what I am thinking about now, just big, and a learning exercise before I get serious.

What track to play? Well, the theme music to Donkey Kong Country has a piece of strong 22Hz in it IIRC, so maybe I'll try that. I've got Private Investigations on some "best of" CD of theirs; I'll have a listen first and see what it's like.
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Old 26th November 2003, 06:55 PM   #17
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the increase in FS helps with the efficientcy

there are plenty of woofers with long throw (20+mm of xmax) mid 20s FS and 90db+ sensitivity
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Old 26th November 2003, 10:04 PM   #18
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unfortunately, i dont think he wanted to soend the money for one of these high efficiency 18" PA subs, fantastic as they are, i think circlotron wanted a "budget" project. this is why i recomended the shiva, not the tempest, its goes low, and doesnt cost the earth, plus its efficiency isnt as bad as many other subwoofers, eg the DPL with 84db eff.
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doesn't look too bad in a 200 litre box... *hint* *hint*
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Old 27th November 2003, 03:01 AM   #20
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what about a cheap 12" in a bose wave cannon clone? they seem to go ok! for similar volume,..

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Yeah, well I've got two 245L boxes at the moment (detailed somewhere else on diyaudio).
Those are beasts i saw those

its fun making a cheap woofer achieve its max capability



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there are plenty of woofers with long throw (20+mm of xmax) mid 20s FS and 90db+ sensitivity
dont u mean 84db+ sensitivity!

ive seen 2 woofers like that,One is the maelstrom,93db eff

name some models please!
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