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Join Date: Jan 2013
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I don't quite get the plenum (slot loaded) area. Can this be thought of as a single driver mount? In other words, is everything that's "behind" the two drivers all one big shared space?
To simplify, if I assume a sealed enclosed with a push-pull (cones pointed to each other to reduce plenum size) then the following would work if the floating structure was sealed to the front "baffle" with a cut-out around the plenum. And further, if that's true, then the model would be as for a single driver but twice the enclosure volume. (Excuse the lame drawing as I never fully understood sketchup, either.) |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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The plenum should be modeled as two drivers in an offset horn. The cabinet can be shared or dual, sealed or BR. |
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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The opposite of your Idea is in the Totem Mani-2 ;-)
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
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Hi,
Slot loading subs is a very dumb idea born out of very poor physics. rgds, sreten.
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: iowa
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: amsterdam
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care to elaborate?
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Join Date: Jan 2013
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I am interested in hearing more from #13 as there were failures in the PPSL thread from lack of design knowledge and I fear that as well. Can someone with experience confirm that it's safe to think of the plenum edge mounting as a single driver? In other words, seal around the rectangular edge to the baffle.
I used face-to-face which would be wired out of phase so that it would still be push-pull. The reason for this is to reduce the plenum area due to my small box constraints as recommended by #10. |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Both drivers, if facing each other, should be wired in polarity. If they are "push pull" (which cancels even order harmonic distortion, leaving the non-musical odd order distortion) the reversed cone should be reversed in polarity. Regarding post # 13, my isobaric PP TQWP Totem sub is quite different .
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cascais
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It's that a problem of the push-pull isobarics? Can you link to some notes or paper on that issue (isobaric distortions types). Regards.
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
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Hi,
Show me a design where whatever volume you use for the slot is not best used internally, or any good sub design where a slot would have any useful effect. rgds, sreten.
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