Hi Nathenry,
It good to see you are making progress.
As the subject of a midrange horn build around a coned driver came up, and as I was going to use a Selenium 10PW3 in a different project, I designed it into a box that would fit with your woofer: 22"W x 22"H x 28"D. I'll attach the drawing (it's really just a sketch, and if you're going to play around with it, you'll have to work out the details as you go along), and I tried to make it about as easy to build as I can think of. The range is 200Hz to 2kHz. At least this will give you another alternative.
As jbell did in his version of the Beta-12-2 horn (start at Post #257 here: Single sheet TH challenge please, take note of his use of a passive crossover between the 12" and the compression horn ) the front can be covered with a metal grill, and the horn and driver as mentioned in Post #151 can be mounted against the grill from the inside.
Oliver
I like that design, yes make it easy as you can so we can understand the drawing.
Oliver is there a difference between Selenium 10PW3 and Beta-12-2 horn midrange horn
i am looking forward to see how both horn turns out.
Hi Nathenry,
The Selenium is $55.99, and the Eminence 79.99. 🙂 Seriously, in this application there may not be that much difference between the drivers, but there may be some difference between the horns. You almost would have to build these to be sure. When plotted in Hornresp the Beta-12-2 goes a little lower, and the 10P3 has a little higher output (both @ their respective P_aes).
Regards,
The Selenium is $55.99, and the Eminence 79.99. 🙂 Seriously, in this application there may not be that much difference between the drivers, but there may be some difference between the horns. You almost would have to build these to be sure. When plotted in Hornresp the Beta-12-2 goes a little lower, and the 10P3 has a little higher output (both @ their respective P_aes).
Regards,
Hi Nathenry,
The Selenium is $55.99, and the Eminence 79.99. 🙂 Seriously, in this application there may not be that much difference between the drivers, but there may be some difference between the horns. You almost would have to build these to be sure. When plotted in Hornresp the Beta-12-2 goes a little lower, and the 10P3 has a little higher output (both @ their respective P_aes).
Regards,
Thanks OLiver
I will take the selenium to go please.lol
The price is right and higher output I will take.
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Your friend should listen and decide for himself if he likes what they have to offer.
IMO you might not want to derail your thread with such drivel.
IMO you might not want to derail your thread with such drivel.
hi all.
high cr is certenly posible ,but you wil need some sort of phase plug,to make it work whitout riple.(that go's for all mid horns)
it seems you already have another plan ready wich is easyer to make.
(nice plan oliver)
grtz erik🙂
high cr is certenly posible ,but you wil need some sort of phase plug,to make it work whitout riple.(that go's for all mid horns)
it seems you already have another plan ready wich is easyer to make.
(nice plan oliver)
grtz erik🙂
hi all.
high cr is certenly posible ,but you wil need some sort of phase plug,to make it work whitout riple.(that go's for all mid horns)
it seems you already have another plan ready wich is easyer to make.
(nice plan oliver)
grtz erik🙂
Epa
thanks for trying to help we appreciate it
Hi Nathenry,
I'll attach plan and cutsheet for the Selenium 10PW3 mid-horn.
This is purely experimental, has not been build before, may or may not work.
According to Hornresp it should work, but you would be well advised to build a prototype, and make certain that it does what you want it to do. I think it will perform for the range of 200Hz to 2kHz, but without building and testing I just don't know.
Regards,
I'll attach plan and cutsheet for the Selenium 10PW3 mid-horn.
This is purely experimental, has not been build before, may or may not work.
According to Hornresp it should work, but you would be well advised to build a prototype, and make certain that it does what you want it to do. I think it will perform for the range of 200Hz to 2kHz, but without building and testing I just don't know.
Regards,
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Hi Nathenry,
I'll attach plan and cutsheet for the Selenium 10PW3 mid-horn.
This is purely experimental, has not been build before, may or may not work.
According to Hornresp it should work, but you would be well advised to build a prototype, and make certain that it does what you want it to do. I think it will perform for the range of 200Hz to 2kHz, but without building and testing I just don't know.
Regards,
Oliver
Thanks for the drawings, I will pass on the above information. Also i think it will work just the way you design it to work.
Hi Nathenry,
Both braces should have about 1" x 1' to 1-1/2" x 1-1/2" cross-section. Maybe, cut from 2x4s (old broom handles have also been used successfully). The top (side-to-side) brace in the picture is too high to do any good. You are trying to stabilize the side panels and the top/bottom panels. As close to the general middle of these panels as possible (a little offset is actually desirable) and make sure that the driver still fits with room to spare.
Should have made that clearer in my drawing.
Regards,
Both braces should have about 1" x 1' to 1-1/2" x 1-1/2" cross-section. Maybe, cut from 2x4s (old broom handles have also been used successfully). The top (side-to-side) brace in the picture is too high to do any good. You are trying to stabilize the side panels and the top/bottom panels. As close to the general middle of these panels as possible (a little offset is actually desirable) and make sure that the driver still fits with room to spare.
Should have made that clearer in my drawing.
Regards,
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OkHi Nathenry,
Both braces should have about 1" x 1' to 1-1/2" x 1-1/2" cross-section. Maybe, cut from 2x4s (old broom handles have also been used successfully). The top (side-to-side) brace in the picture is too high to do any good. You are trying to stabilize the side panels and the top/bottom panels. As close to the general middle of these panels as possible (a little offset is actually desirable) and make sure that the driver still fits with room to spare.
Should have made that clearer in my drawing.
Regards,
Hi Nathenry,
Yes, something like that. Maybe this would have helped. 🙂
Regards,
Thanks
The guy who is putting the box together is going to knock himself over his head when he see this.LOL
Hi Nathenry,
I've looked some more at the mid-horn, and it should be possible to improve the high end performance of this horn without making major changes in the layout. I don't know when I'll have time to look at it, but I'll try to get to it soon. It also may be possible to build the horn a bit smaller (still same general layout).
Regards,
I've looked some more at the mid-horn, and it should be possible to improve the high end performance of this horn without making major changes in the layout. I don't know when I'll have time to look at it, but I'll try to get to it soon. It also may be possible to build the horn a bit smaller (still same general layout).
Regards,
Hi Nathenry,
I've looked some more at the mid-horn, and it should be possible to improve the high end performance of this horn without making major changes in the layout. I don't know when I'll have time to look at it, but I'll try to get to it soon. It also may be possible to build the horn a bit smaller (still same general layout).
Regards,
Ok Oliver that is some good news. Looking forward to it.
Hi Nathenry,
There was something about the Hornresp simulations w/ the 10PW3 that I just didn't like, and NEO Dan finally solved the puzzle: somehow I had ended up with the wrong driver parameters. This resulted in an overly optimistic frequency response and SPL.
You need to go back to epa's driver suggestion. The design I posted previously (Posts #180 and #188) will not work for you.
Regards,
There was something about the Hornresp simulations w/ the 10PW3 that I just didn't like, and NEO Dan finally solved the puzzle: somehow I had ended up with the wrong driver parameters. This resulted in an overly optimistic frequency response and SPL.
You need to go back to epa's driver suggestion. The design I posted previously (Posts #180 and #188) will not work for you.
Regards,
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Hi Nathenry,
There was something about the Hornresp simulations w/ the 10PW3 that I just didn't like, and NEO Dan finally solved the puzzle: somehow I had ended up with the wrong driver parameters. This resulted in an overly optimistic frequency response and SPL.
You need to go back to epa's driver suggestion. The design I posted previously (Posts #180 and #188) will not work for you.
Regards,
OK Oliver thanks a lot for your help.
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