Can anyone help me if there is a recommended 12" tapped horn design works well from 45-125Hz soundwise and performance wise? Must be designed around two different brands available here in the USA I prefer Faital Pro 12" if it can be used as an alternate woofer (new ferrite line)? Thanks everyone!
Must be designed around two different brands available here in the USA
There are MANY brands available in the US. And FaitalPro looks to have at least nine 12" models. What exactly are you looking for?
FaitalPRO - Professional Loudspeakers Made in Italy
Nice looking driver, I wonder when it will be available and how much it will cost.
From what I have seen, Faital announces product well in advance of availability.
With a No=.83% (91.2dB) it's not very efficient either, although a TH will probably add as much as 6dB or so.
Nice looking driver, I wonder when it will be available and how much it will cost.
From what I have seen, Faital announces product well in advance of availability.
With a No=.83% (91.2dB) it's not very efficient either, although a TH will probably add as much as 6dB or so.
No=1.25% (93dB)
x-max=11.17mm (Faital method of gap height/3 plus coil overhang)
LF Cast Chassis / Ferrite - FTR12-4080HDX - Celestion - Guitar, Bass & Pro Audio Speakers
$99 from Recone Kits
x-max=11.17mm (Faital method of gap height/3 plus coil overhang)
LF Cast Chassis / Ferrite - FTR12-4080HDX - Celestion - Guitar, Bass & Pro Audio Speakers
$99 from Recone Kits
±2dB 45hz~150hz, 99dB average at 2.83V/1M, does not exceed x-max with 80V RMS sine wave! 100.6dB at 50hz 2.83V/1M
About 129 liters (net).
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| 45 Hz Tapped Horn
Def_Const |Horn Dimensions
{
a1 = 150e-4; |Area at throat (cm^2)
a2 = 200e-4; |Area at rear of driver (cm^2)
a3 = 1100e-4; |Area at front of driver (cm^2)
a4 = 1200e-4; |Area at mouth (cm^2)
l1 = 18e-2; |Distance from throat to rear of driver (cm)
l2 = 195e-2; |Line distance from rear of driver to front of driver (cm)
l3 = 25e-2; |Distance from front of driver to mouth (cm)
}
Def_Driver 'Dr1'
| Celestion FTR12-4080HDX
Sd=530cm2
fs=61.2Hz
Qes=0.446
Qms=2.28
Vas=24.79L
Re=6.05ohm
Le=1.92mH
system 'S1'
Driver Def='Dr1' Node=1=0=3=4
Waveguide 'W1' Node=2=3 STh={a1} SMo={a2} Len={l1} Conical
Waveguide 'W2' Node=3=4 STh={a2} SMo={a3} Len={l2} Conical
Horn 'H1' Node=4 STh={a3} SMo={a4} Len={l3} Conical
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±2dB 45hz~150hz, 99dB average at 2.83V/1M, does not exceed x-max with 80V RMS sine wave! 100.6dB at 50hz 2.83V/1M
About 129 liters (net).
About 129 liters (net).
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| 45 Hz Tapped Horn
Def_Const |Horn Dimensions
{
a1 = 150e-4; |Area at throat (cm^2)
a2 = 200e-4; |Area at rear of driver (cm^2)
a3 = 1100e-4; |Area at front of driver (cm^2)
a4 = 1200e-4; |Area at mouth (cm^2)
l1 = 18e-2; |Distance from throat to rear of driver (cm)
l2 = 195e-2; |Line distance from rear of driver to front of driver (cm)
l3 = 25e-2; |Distance from front of driver to mouth (cm)
}
Def_Driver 'Dr1'
| Celestion FTR12-4080HDX
Sd=530cm2
fs=61.2Hz
Qes=0.446
Qms=2.28
Vas=24.79L
Re=6.05ohm
Le=1.92mH
system 'S1'
Driver Def='Dr1' Node=1=0=3=4
Waveguide 'W1' Node=2=3 STh={a1} SMo={a2} Len={l1} Conical
Waveguide 'W2' Node=3=4 STh={a2} SMo={a3} Len={l2} Conical
Horn 'H1' Node=4 STh={a3} SMo={a4} Len={l3} Conical
**********************************
±2dB 45hz~150hz, 99dB average at 2.83V/1M, does not exceed x-max with 80V RMS sine wave! 100.6dB at 50hz 2.83V/1M
About 129 liters (net).
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This design will do it. The 12PS100 drivers are reasonably priced and if you have a wholesale account they are two for the price of one 1030.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/subwoofers/208562-tinyhorn.html
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/subwoofers/208562-tinyhorn.html
This is a design I've been working on, the THAM12, perhaps it can be of intrest, drawings and numrous simulations can be found in the link below:
http://www.martinsson.cc/blog/index.php?entry=THAM12
It's about half the size of the THAM15, I have not built these yet so I can not comment on real world performance.
TundraLTD, that design of yours sure looks nice, great response, and I really like the folding
http://www.martinsson.cc/blog/index.php?entry=THAM12
It's about half the size of the THAM15, I have not built these yet so I can not comment on real world performance.
TundraLTD, that design of yours sure looks nice, great response, and I really like the folding
12" Tapped Horn Plans?
I really want to use the Faital Pro brand I like the PS100, I've used B&C, 18Sound, RCF's, PD's (1850's) and really want to try faital his time around.
On another note Martinsson, I am just curious how did you fit the Turbo TSE111 phase plug to fit the B&C 10MD26??? You say it sounds good, the Fane has a different cone size and flatter on the cap??? Just curious, Thanks!
Is the MTH-30 pretty good with the Faital 12HP1010? Thanks everyone!
I really want to use the Faital Pro brand I like the PS100, I've used B&C, 18Sound, RCF's, PD's (1850's) and really want to try faital his time around.
On another note Martinsson, I am just curious how did you fit the Turbo TSE111 phase plug to fit the B&C 10MD26??? You say it sounds good, the Fane has a different cone size and flatter on the cap??? Just curious, Thanks!
Is the MTH-30 pretty good with the Faital 12HP1010? Thanks everyone!
"They will be available in the US 1st quarter '12, Sensitivity for the 1030 is 95dB, 1010 is 96dB price MAP $348 1030 and $270 for 1010. I am leaning towards the 1030 2 X tapped cabinets. "
The sensitivity for any driver is in its mid-band, and has little to do with its efficiency in the bass.
Compare the Eta Zero (No%), and even then, some drivers work better than others in a TH.
The Celestion is a much better driver for the TH requirement you expressed, it is more efficient, and a fraction of the price.
The sensitivity for any driver is in its mid-band, and has little to do with its efficiency in the bass.
Compare the Eta Zero (No%), and even then, some drivers work better than others in a TH.
The Celestion is a much better driver for the TH requirement you expressed, it is more efficient, and a fraction of the price.
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This is a design I've been working on, the THAM12, perhaps it can be of intrest, drawings and numrous simulations can be found in the link below:
http://www.martinsson.cc/blog/index.php?entry=THAM12
It's about half the size of the THAM15, I have not built these yet so I can not comment on real world performance.
TundraLTD, that design of yours sure looks nice, great response, and I really like the folding
Thanks , folding gives me a headache! It took me an entire day to make it work. I'm building a pair this weekend!
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