Cheap Tang Band mini Horns are back!

[m R g S r]

Let's see some nice small designs for these woofers!
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-919

I like my volvotretter 38hz horns loaded with these woofers, but the price of them (because of the Neo magnet) is getting crazy.
Tang Band W6-1139SI 6-1/2" Subwoofer 264-832

slightly different specs, ferrite magnet drivers have slightly lower fs, so lets see some new designs! $54 each plus some wood and glue, makes for a nice small horn perfect for smaller, unobtrusive systems!

Price is now $48 each

 

[Thawach]

really cheap! but i feel bored when wait about 1 month to get them. i see a lot of thai people order from part express. m R g S r the price is very interesting.

 

[Khron]

At least on a quick sim with the parameters provided on the PE page, they should behave at least "close enough" to the original (neo) version. Seems like a steal

 

[JLH]

The price of neodymium is stupid crazy. I'll never back myself into another corner by designing anything around a driver with a neo magnet again.

 

[Thawach]

The price of neodymium is very expensive now. i get the new from P audio they try to stop the T neodymium magnet in line all products because the The price of neodymium is very expensive more than last year.

 

[Bluto]

Count me in for a new design based on that driver. Would love to see very small box tapped horn that could hit at least 30 hz with authority. Sick of big boxes.

 

[m R g S r]

I don't think that 30hz and VERY small should be used together. 30hz and REASONABLY small is more realistic. Small footprint single fold (tall) horn is do-able. Corner loaded (and out of the way) could produce decent 30hz spl.

I'm working on simming a TQWP for this bad boy. Just need some more time.

 

[tb46]

Hi,

If you want small: you may want to look at a 15 Litres net vented box with an 8" passive radiator. For a tapped horn you're looking at 100 L.

Regards,

 

[BP1Fanatic]

 

[bjorno]

Count me in for a new design based on that driver. Would love to see very small box tapped horn that could hit at least 30 hz with authority. Sick of big boxes.

Hi,

Small box with authority including SQ? That is a huge contradiction to what Hoffmans Iron Law stipulates and gross wishful thinking of SQ especially when loud HT SPL's is written on the Santa Claus wish-list.

IMO, If it's the footprint of the sub that determines what is small, its possible to design a good sounding sub but if only a 'cube-like' design, the result will be no better than a small computer-sub.

The picture= Design using IKEA-Blanda :

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[BP1Fanatic]

Take S3 down to 100 cm2 and you have a perfect rectangular 27L box. 30hz = 99.70 dB's & 11.29mm @ 21.34hz

 

[tb46]

Hi BP1Fanatic,

When I messed around with this driver I thought it was a little too touchy on the Wizard sliders when I reduced the volume to about 35 L, and it lost about 5 dB. Also, the impulse response looked bad. By the way, I found that adding about 5mH to the Le helped. But yes, it can be done.

Regards,

 

[BP1Fanatic]

It lost 5 dB's compared to which design specs?

 

[tb46]

Hi bjorno,

In Post #10: it looks like you're using 2 drivers in an isobaric configuration, and adjusted the T/S parameters respectively, you may want to double the Le as you're using the drivers in series.

Regards,

 

[tb46]

Hi BP1Fanatic,

To my 100 L one.

Regards,

 

[BP1Fanatic]

 

[BP1Fanatic]

Hi BP1Fanatic,

To my 100 L one.

Regards,

I was trying to stay as small as possible and still reach 30hz.

 

[BP1Fanatic]

Two 34L boxes puts me at 107 dB's @ 29.65 hz. Four boxes = 113.5 db's.

 

[bjorno]

Hi bjorno,

In Post #10: it looks like you're using 2 drivers in an isobaric configuration, and adjusted the T/S parameters respectively, you may want to double the Le as you're using the drivers in series.

Regards,

Hi.

Thank you TB46, Good to have someone here that is observant..

Luckily a correct double Le makes almost no difference to the shown FR.

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[m R g S r]

Anyone ever build something with these drivers?