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Old 3rd October 2011, 03:05 PM   #1
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Default Subwoofer - spider glue?

Hi, I have a little problem with 15'' sub (dayton Audio Qu4tro)

one part of the spider attach to the basket has pelled off.
(outher range about 1/3)

I am interested to glue back together.

Which type of glue should i use???
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Old 3rd October 2011, 03:28 PM   #2
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I use the Gorilla Super Glue, the high impact formula. It is not instant so it gives you a couple of minutes to get it where you want it. After the adhesive is applied, keep the spider held down by contantly moving a small smooth tool back and fourth across the glued section until the adhesive kicks, never pause, keep moving or lift. Don't use the thin instant adhesives, you need one with some body.


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Old 3rd October 2011, 04:52 PM   #3
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Ok thanks for that info, I am from slovenia, but we don't have that kind of glue.

far as I know, I am not allowed to use instant adhesives.


Will EPOXY two-component adhesive do the job?
dry time min.12hour/24hour

I wonder what chemical must be in glue, for successful repair?
In other case i can do more damage with inappropriate glue.

Is Epoxy good solution?

Thanks again.

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Old 3rd October 2011, 05:33 PM   #4
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It seems to be a common problem with those 15" Quatro drivers, I had to do a similar repair on several that I have owned.

I would not recommend using epoxy adhesives for this use.

Do you have available to you a thick(viscous) super glue such as this example This will give the best results.

The alternate would be to use a contact cement such as this example
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You will have to have to lift and hold the spider edge away from the basket with some toothpicks or small wedges, apply the cement to the underside of the spider edge and also the top of the basket and allow it to dry. After it has dried remove the toothpicks or small wedges and apply firm pressure all along the top of the spider edge to help bond it to the basket.

Note: after the repair with either the thick super glue or the contact cement - leave the driver for at least 24 hrs to allow a complete curing of the adhesive before you use the driver again.

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Old 3rd October 2011, 05:45 PM   #5
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Cokewithlime,
we got nothig simmilar, only super attack glue (instant)
actualy this glue (super attack) is from LOCTITE company
Super Glues from Loctite Products | Loctite Adhesives

i cant open your exsample picture on the bottom of the screen.

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Old 3rd October 2011, 06:22 PM   #6
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I use the Gorilla Super Glue, the high impact formula. It is not instant so it gives you a couple of minutes to get it where you want it. After the adhesive is applied, keep the spider held down by contantly moving a small smooth tool back and fourth across the glued section until the adhesive kicks, never pause, keep moving or lift. Don't use the thin instant adhesives, you need one with some body.


All the best.
I would recommend Gorilla Glue as well..I just put a whole sub box together with it...have 5,000 watts going to it...hasn't blown up yet...that glue is a beast. Only problem with gorilla glue is that it's recommended that it's clamped down for an hour.
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Here is the one from Loctite that I have used - you will probably need two containers and you have to apply if fairly quickly.
Ultra Control Super Glue Gel from Loctite Adhesives

You will have to have to lift and hold the spider edge away from the basket with some toothpicks or small wedges, apply the gel to just the metal on the top of the basket. Next remove the toothpicks or small wedges then follow the instructions from
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After the adhesive is applied, keep the spider held down by constantly moving a small smooth tool back and fourth across the glued section until the adhesive kicks, never pause, keep moving or lift.
You could also use the Loctite contact adhesive using the instructions I provided in my earlier post. If you have never done this type of repair before, I would suggest the Loctite contact adhesive rather than the gel super glue since it gives you much more time to apply and will give you virtually the same repair strength.

Note: after the repair with either the gel super glue or contact adhesive - leave the driver for at least 24 hrs to allow a complete curing of the adhesive before you use the driver again.

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Old 3rd October 2011, 07:55 PM   #8
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Ok I try find best option!
when I done I will post the results.

thanks for quick quide.
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Old 4th October 2011, 06:43 PM   #9
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I successfully repair subwoofer spider with two-component epoxy glue!
no more rattling, only pure bass.

have tested instant adhesive on some old speaker spider for spare parts and result is bad!
''instant adhesives are too hard when dry and usually breaks.''

for me epoxy did great job!

thanks guys.

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Old 11th October 2011, 04:31 PM   #10
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I've used "uhu" for gluing a spider on an 18" Audiobahn, still going strong.
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