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Old 17th November 2010, 06:28 PM   #1
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Default refitting logitech z-2300 sub into different cabinet: room for improvement?

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I have just taken apart the sub cabinet of my Logitech Z-2300 and I want to build it into my furniture to have the ugly box out of sight. Having it taken apart, I wonder if there is room for improvement.

1. could I replace the driver (it turns out it is a Tang Band W8-670Q). specs (wich mean absolutely nothing to me):
Fs = 42.95 HzRe = 7.80 ohms
Le = 7328.42 uH
L2 = 3120.63 uH
R2 = 52.25 ohms
Qt = 0.52 Qt
Qes = 0.57 Qes
Qms = 6.49 Qms
Mms = 50.81 grams
Rms = 2.112233 kg/s
Cms = 0.000270 m/N
Vas = 10.35 liters
Sd= 165.13 cm^2
Bl = 13.755757 Tm
ETA = 0.14 %
Lp(2.83V/1m) = 83.66 dB


Or could I imrove the size of the cabinet:

The original enclsure is 30,5 cm x 25cm x 25 cm (inside) = 12" x 10" x 10".
Maximum inside size of the new enclosure is 23cm x 41cm x 38cm (= 9.1" x 16,1" x 15")


The original is ported with some weird U-shaped plastic tube, diameter of the outside hole 5,3", the diameter of the tube itself is 3", the length of the tube about 22".


I hope the specialists here have some interesting things to say!


Thanks in advance!


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Old 17th November 2010, 06:53 PM   #2
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Greets!

First things first, these specs are somewhat different than what is published, so are yours measured or........?

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Old 17th November 2010, 06:57 PM   #3
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Greets!

First things first, these specs are somewhat different than what is published, so are yours measured or........?

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nope not measured (have most of them no clue what they mean). I have the info from a forum, he seems to have measured it. Sorry I did not check with the specs of the tangband driver myself!
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Old 17th November 2010, 07:04 PM   #4
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Hi erikb1971,

Are the specs measured? In any case they are not the specs of a Tang Band W8-670Q. Please, see TB's website.

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Old 17th November 2010, 07:06 PM   #5
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The specs seem to be measured from the original speaker: logitech w200of120-02f. I found on th einternet it was a tangband driver, but that does not seem to be the case. Again sorry for the confusion!
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Hi GM,

One phone call, and you beat me to it. :-)

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Old 17th November 2010, 09:04 PM   #7
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Hi erik1971,

Here is the Boxplot output for your speaker in a box with your dimensions, vented w/ 3"Dia. Port.

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Old 17th November 2010, 09:11 PM   #8
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wow... that looks pretty impressive... but I have no clue what that means. It is bedtime in Europe, so Iam gonna take a good night sleep and study it in the morning. If Iam not able to figure out what it means I will get back :-) Thanks a lot for the effort!

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..I wonder if there is room for improvement.

Fs = 42.95 HzRe = 7.80 ohms
Le = 7328.42 uH
L2 = 3120.63 uH
R2 = 52.25 ohms
Qt = 0.52 Qt
Qes = 0.57 Qes
Qms = 6.49 Qms
Mms = 50.81 grams
Rms = 2.112233 kg/s
Cms = 0.000270 m/N
Vas = 10.35 liters
Sd= 165.13 cm^2
Bl = 13.755757 Tm
ETA = 0.14 %
Lp(2.83V/1m) = 83.66 dB


Or could I imrove the size of the cabinet:

Erik Blokpoel
Hi Eric,

Why not build a multi-folded TH using 0.5" Ply (using the driver specs here-above):

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Old 17th November 2010, 10:12 PM   #10
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Hi,

The simplest way of doing it is using an internal volume about
20% to 30% larger with the original vent, anything more
radical may not suit any amplifier EQ.

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