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Old 1st February 2010, 06:12 PM   #31
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Those complaining of the absence of LAB horn plans should realize that the LAB 12 never had plans in the Eminence provided pdf file. The plans are hosted at PSW LAB, but no plans for the LAB 15" yet.

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Old 1st February 2010, 06:20 PM   #32
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I suppose if they dropped the resonance to 18Hz, and made it take a bigger box, we'd all be happy.
I'd want my lab15 the other way.
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Old 1st February 2010, 06:25 PM   #33
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TH text file in Post# 10 ( lab15_tp.txt ) and not my recommendation ( ) for a Sub to be used in any home environment
Home? You're joking, right? Live sound, silly. Why would anyone want a high efficiency 40hz horn for home. I wouldn't. And why on earth would anyone want a low efficiency 20hz tapped horn for live work?
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Old 1st February 2010, 06:27 PM   #34
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If the lab15 turnout to be a good speaker for bass horn i will be making a large folded horn a true bass horn if someone come up with a good plan
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Old 1st February 2010, 06:29 PM   #35
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two lab15 in one floded horn. freq 25 to 100
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Old 1st February 2010, 11:12 PM   #36
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I'd want my lab15 the other way.
I'm with Davy on this one. You can have your 18 Hz Fs "subwoofers" that take kilowatts (and need every one of them to get loud).

Give me a well-made 15 inch driver with a 35 to 40 Hz Fs, 95+ dB 1W efficiency, 18+ mm of one-way Xmax, 30+ mm of Xmech, a Vas of less than 100 L, a high BL, and reasonable Q values. I don't really see a need for more than 500 W of RMS power handling. Make it cost less than $200.

The Lab15 is so close, but not quite.

Oh - and I want a pony too.

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Old 1st February 2010, 11:13 PM   #37
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Those complaining of the absence of LAB horn plans should realize that the LAB 12 never had plans in the Eminence provided pdf file. The plans are hosted at PSW LAB, but no plans for the LAB 15" yet.

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I didn't expect I'd ever find them at Eminence. Someone has to have an idea for this thing.
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Oh - and I want a pony too.
I'll take a perfect power amplifier with infinite current capacity and at least 1000V output capability. I don't mind if it makes some heat, either.
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Old 2nd February 2010, 02:33 AM   #39
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I'm a thinking this is what the the LAB 15 is for...
http://www.outline.it/news_eng/NEWS@PLASA2006.pdf

Funny thing is that it's OLD, so maybe the driver was originally an OEM unit for this company.
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Old 2nd February 2010, 05:01 PM   #40
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Sure reads like a description of a PA tapped horn to me. Nothing new to be learned there. Davy pretty much presented that model in post #10 of this thread - albeit as a direct comparison to Jim's cabinets.
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