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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Herne
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Hi Patrick, you can make a TH with a mouthsize of about 1 * SD with good response. The simulation shows a Beyma 12P1000ND in a 60Liter tapped horn. Doubling the mouthsize gives you additional 3db maxspl.
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: USA
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This is about an inch taller, and a couple of inches deeper. Kicks severe butt. A JBL2206 will also work in the same box.
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: USA
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![]() Mid-Bass / L12P540 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- high power 12" mid-bass very good power handling, excellent linearity and very low distortion diameter: 12" impedance: 8 Ů power: 400W rms, 800W program spl: 97 dB frequency range: 50 Hz2 kHz voice coil: 3" copper baffle cutout: 11.2" depth: 6.1" weight: 18.7 lbs
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: USA
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| 50 Hz Tapped Horn
Def_Const |Horn Dimensions { a1 = 150e-4; |Area at throat (cm^2) a2 = 250e-4; |Area at rear of driver (cm^2) a3 = 1100e-4; |Area at front of driver (cm^2) a4 = 1200e-4; |Area at mouth (cm^2) l1 = 15e-2; |Distance from throat to rear of driver (cm) l2 = 178e-2; |Line distance from rear of driver to front of driver (cm) l3 = 25e-2; |Distance from front of driver to mouth (cm) } Def_Driver 'Dr1' | RCF L12P540 Sd=530cm2 fs=59Hz Qes=0.36 Qms=11 Vas=45L Re=5.6ohm Le=1.8mH system 'S1' Driver Def='Dr1' Node=1=0=3=4 Waveguide 'W1' Node=2=3 STh={a1} SMo={a2} Len={l1} Conical Waveguide 'W2' Node=3=4 STh={a2} SMo={a3} Len={l2} Conical Horn 'H1' Node=4 STh={a3} SMo={a4} Len={l3} Conical
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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Still cant get my head around Hornresp.
Driver specs: Power handling: 600 watts rms Voice coil diameter: 2" Voice coil inductance: 1.81 mH Impedance: 4 ohm DC resistance: 2.60 ohms Frequency range: 20-450 Hz Magnet weight: 112 oz. Fs: 18.8 Hz SPL: 90 dB 1W/1m, 93.4 dB @ 2.83V/1m Vas: 232.2. Qms: 8.66 Qes: .39 Qts: .38 Xmax: 15.1mm Re: 2.8 Le: 1.82 Mms: 297.1 CMs: 0.24 Sd:829.6 Vd:1252.7 BL: 16 Trying to put this into a box of roughly 104.5 L I don't understand how to get some of HRs measurements. Like Rms and Mmd. I also haven't figured out how to define box parameters. Layout equals a 13 foot horn length (roughly) within the space of 7 folds. 13 foot would (roughly) get me the 1/4 wave length for 50Hz ? Help a laymen comprehend? |
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: USA
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"Trying to put this into a box of roughly 104.5 L"
The driver you listed is not suitable for a 50hz tapped horn. "I don't understand how to get some of HRs measurements. Like Rms and Mmd. I also haven't figured out how to define box parameters. " You don't have to understand them, just enter as required. The 'HELP' section tells you how to do this. The program calculates what it needs from common T/S parameters. "Layout equals a 13 foot horn length (roughly) within the space of 7 folds. 13 foot would (roughly) get me the 1/4 wave length for 50Hz ?" The speed of sound is roughly 1130 ft/sec, the 1/4W of 50hz is thus 5.65 ft, or 67.8 inches. As you can see from my 50hz AkAbak script, the main horn length is 1.78m, or about 70 inches.
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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As DJK alluded to, that's one of the great benefits of a tapped horn. It doesn't require a "typical" subwoofer driver, where the FS is very low, nor a "typical" horn driver, where QTS is very low.
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Chamblee, Ga.
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BTW, you didn't say what the XO point is, so don't know how much BW you want to try and get out of it. As already noted, this is a very poor choice for a 50 Hz TH, especially in ~104.5 L due to its high Vas, but curiosity got the best of me to see how poor a choice it is: GM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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After what I learned on my Tapped Horn for Dummies thread, I realized that the best driver for a 50hz horn would have an FS in the range of 60-100hz.
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: USA
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Right you are.
RCF L12P540 Sd=530cm2 fs=59Hz Qes=0.36 Qms=11 Vas=45L Re=5.6ohm Le=1.8mH
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