Budget Subwoofer

wasted911 · 8th June 2008, 12:49 AM

Alright.. I'm tired of the RE SX18 and I want to upgrade. I'm looking at subs that will be able to take the power from the beringer 2400 watt amp that PE has for sale. I waqnt to keep it under 4-500 dollars for the woofer(s). I'd like to do 1 or 2 18"s, but I could also go down to 2 15"s if needed. Does anyone have suggestions? I'd like to get the IXL18s from mach 5, but I dont know if mark can get them in a 8 ohm version. I'm also thinking possible 4 of the m-series 18"s except he's sold out of the 4 ohm versions. Another consideration is the Audioque 18" but I'm worried that it's too SPL oriented. Any ideas?

Mikey p · 8th June 2008, 02:28 AM

IXL-18's are 4 ohm only. Why would you want them in 8 ohms? Which Beringer amp are you referring to, the EP-2500?

wasted911 · 8th June 2008, 02:29 AM

if the IXLs were 8 ohms I'd just run two of them. I'm talking to Mark now about possibly running 4 MJs. it is the ep-2500 i'm talking about as well.

Don Bunce · 8th June 2008, 04:07 AM

You didn't give us any info about your intended use,(music/HT,pro sound?)size limitations,etc.

The fact that you want it to be able to handle 2400 watts indicates that you want it to play LOUD.

My suggestion would be to build 2 LABhorns...The LAB12 gen 2 drivers are on sale at PE for $132 ea...You will need 4 to build 2 cabinets.

www.prosoundweb.com/lsp/

Rybaudio · 8th June 2008, 04:47 AM

It's funny you should mention this because I have 4 MJ18s for sale! See here:

(4) Mach 5 MJ18-4

wasted911 · 8th June 2008, 06:20 PM

Sorry, I forgot about some of the details. It's mainly for watching movies. Size limitations... well it's pretty much unlimited. But saying that I know some of you will come up with some crazy ideas so lets say... if I did two enclosures, I have 8' ceilings, approx 42" wide, and 18-24" deep. I'm addicted to lows, so that's what it'd have to do. As for the fellow selling the MJs, you'd have to give me a really good deal as I'm about 500 miles from Mach 5s home base.

Mikey p · 9th June 2008, 02:31 AM

With the EP2500 you would run one 4 ohm IXL-18 per channel. I have a pair of these subs, each 12 cubic feet tuned to 16 hz. Each is powered by a 360 watt plate amp and it's more then enough.
Should you decide to go with the MJ-18's, be aware they are being updated to the MJ-18M, with a lower Fs and higher Xmax. They should be available in a couple of weeks.

Don Bunce · 9th June 2008, 03:13 AM

Even though the LABhorn is fairly large(45"x45"x22.5"),it really doesn't take up all that much space...This is the optimum placement for corner loading,29" from the corner. One on each side is highly recommended...If you wanted to get completely insane,you could stack a second pair on top,and place a screen in front to hide them.

I only have 400 w/ch,and have popped drywall nails,and knocked things off of shelves in the kitchen with just one,so 4 might be a bit of overkill:-)

Tapped horns also work very well.and are easier to build,so that would be another possibility.See the tapped horn thread if you haven't already.

http://www.uploadimage.org/images/5l...ffaosc605p.jpg

wasted911 · 9th June 2008, 05:38 AM

Well I think that I've pretty much decided on the new MJs that Mark has coming out. Hey mikey, are you in Saskatoon? If possible I'd like to see your IXLs. As for the horns, I have no idea how to design/build one, so unless you guys are willing to teach me, I'll probably stick to ported.

Mikey p · 9th June 2008, 11:39 AM

You should wait and see what the specs are on the new MJ-18M. Although they are improved, they won't be able to match the output of the IXL-18.
I'm 2 1/2 hours north of you in Chitek Lake. If you're ever in the area, give me a call and I'll give you a demonstration. I'm currently running a pair of IXL-18's and a pair of Ascendant Audio Atlas 15's. Gives new meaning to "low end output"!

8th June 2008, 12:49 AM	#1
wasted911 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2008	Budget Subwoofer Alright.. I'm tired of the RE SX18 and I want to upgrade. I'm looking at subs that will be able to take the power from the beringer 2400 watt amp that PE has for sale. I waqnt to keep it under 4-500 dollars for the woofer(s). I'd like to do 1 or 2 18"s, but I could also go down to 2 15"s if needed. Does anyone have suggestions? I'd like to get the IXL18s from mach 5, but I dont know if mark can get them in a 8 ohm version. I'm also thinking possible 4 of the m-series 18"s except he's sold out of the 4 ohm versions. Another consideration is the Audioque 18" but I'm worried that it's too SPL oriented. Any ideas?

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8th June 2008, 02:28 AM	#2
Mikey p diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sask. Canada	IXL-18's are 4 ohm only. Why would you want them in 8 ohms? Which Beringer amp are you referring to, the EP-2500?

8th June 2008, 02:29 AM	#3
wasted911 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2008	if the IXLs were 8 ohms I'd just run two of them. I'm talking to Mark now about possibly running 4 MJs. it is the ep-2500 i'm talking about as well.

8th June 2008, 04:07 AM	#4
Don Bunce diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2007	You didn't give us any info about your intended use,(music/HT,pro sound?)size limitations,etc. The fact that you want it to be able to handle 2400 watts indicates that you want it to play LOUD. My suggestion would be to build 2 LABhorns...The LAB12 gen 2 drivers are on sale at PE for $132 ea...You will need 4 to build 2 cabinets. www.prosoundweb.com/lsp/

8th June 2008, 04:47 AM	#5
Rybaudio diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: State College, PA	It's funny you should mention this because I have 4 MJ18s for sale! See here: (4) Mach 5 MJ18-4

8th June 2008, 06:20 PM	#6
wasted911 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2008	Sorry, I forgot about some of the details. It's mainly for watching movies. Size limitations... well it's pretty much unlimited. But saying that I know some of you will come up with some crazy ideas so lets say... if I did two enclosures, I have 8' ceilings, approx 42" wide, and 18-24" deep. I'm addicted to lows, so that's what it'd have to do. As for the fellow selling the MJs, you'd have to give me a really good deal as I'm about 500 miles from Mach 5s home base.

9th June 2008, 02:31 AM	#7
Mikey p diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sask. Canada	With the EP2500 you would run one 4 ohm IXL-18 per channel. I have a pair of these subs, each 12 cubic feet tuned to 16 hz. Each is powered by a 360 watt plate amp and it's more then enough. Should you decide to go with the MJ-18's, be aware they are being updated to the MJ-18M, with a lower Fs and higher Xmax. They should be available in a couple of weeks.

9th June 2008, 03:13 AM	#8
Don Bunce diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2007	Even though the LABhorn is fairly large(45"x45"x22.5"),it really doesn't take up all that much space...This is the optimum placement for corner loading,29" from the corner. One on each side is highly recommended...If you wanted to get completely insane,you could stack a second pair on top,and place a screen in front to hide them. I only have 400 w/ch,and have popped drywall nails,and knocked things off of shelves in the kitchen with just one,so 4 might be a bit of overkill:-) Tapped horns also work very well.and are easier to build,so that would be another possibility.See the tapped horn thread if you haven't already. http://www.uploadimage.org/images/5l...ffaosc605p.jpg

9th June 2008, 05:38 AM	#9
wasted911 diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2008	Well I think that I've pretty much decided on the new MJs that Mark has coming out. Hey mikey, are you in Saskatoon? If possible I'd like to see your IXLs. As for the horns, I have no idea how to design/build one, so unless you guys are willing to teach me, I'll probably stick to ported.

9th June 2008, 11:39 AM	#10
Mikey p diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sask. Canada	You should wait and see what the specs are on the new MJ-18M. Although they are improved, they won't be able to match the output of the IXL-18. I'm 2 1/2 hours north of you in Chitek Lake. If you're ever in the area, give me a call and I'll give you a demonstration. I'm currently running a pair of IXL-18's and a pair of Ascendant Audio Atlas 15's. Gives new meaning to "low end output"!

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