Can someone suggest a small enclosure sub?

jimluu · 20th January 2008, 05:46 PM

Hi. I'm looking for a 12" or 15" sub that can work in a box of less than 1.5cf. for use to bring up the bottom end of my home 2 channel music system.

was looking at the

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pioneers

any thoughts/suggestions much appreciated.

jim.

simon5 · 20th January 2008, 08:05 PM

I heavily suggest you to avoid car subwoofers. Especially for home theater.

This is a much better subwoofer for a similar price. It will perform much better. It's able to move TWICE the amount of air and handle TWICE the amount of continuous power.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=295-466

I agree that it's not cute, but the sound quality is head and shoulders above that Pioneer.

As you see, the Vas isn't that high at 1.62 cu.ft so it will work well in small boxes.

Good luck !

Cro maniac · 20th January 2008, 09:59 PM

For small box I'd go with Peerless XLS12 and passive radiator. It will work in a very small box, and go very deep with low distortion.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=297-608

Application note:

http://www.tymphany.com/xls-12-subwoofer

Choots · 23rd January 2008, 12:41 AM

You could also build using the High Fidelity version - they make both an 8 ohm and a 4 ohm version.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=295-464

Here's my 2 cu ft. build thread for reference.

My build of ZaphAudio 2 cu.ft Dayton RSS 12" HF Sealed Sub

Good luck!

MPM · 23rd January 2008, 01:09 AM

http://www.billfitzmaurice.com/T18.html

Very musical sub to me. Great price on the driver considering how nice it sounds. A little difficult to build. Take your time and use lots of clamps.

chipco3434 · 23rd January 2008, 01:38 AM

Tuba 18 is a giant killer. Great project.

MikeHunt79 · 23rd January 2008, 02:16 AM

I'd go for the Table Tuba over the T18 for HT, same driver, but then the box is larger...

If size is an issue, I imagine you could do far worse than a T18....

EWorkshop1708 · 23rd January 2008, 02:45 AM

He's just looking for deep bass without lots of space.

12 inch is the way to go, 15 is too big for a small box to play deep notes.

The Dayton and Peerless are great subs, but a bit pricey, and the peerless does not have the best power handling if you have a big amp. The Dayton is pretty awesome with the Alumimum cone and big coil,

If you shop carefully, you can get a good car sub for not too much money AND get good sound quality. You CAN use a car sub for Home Theater if you get a good sub. IMO Don't get a speaker with a dome or dust cap, because they can come off or get loose and rattle with high power!

A Sony 120 or 121P5 Sub in a 1.25 or 1.5cu ft sealed box will go really deep and sound good, the ones with a solid cone and NO dust cap is what you would want. Plays 20hz bass well.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4541677

y8s · 23rd January 2008, 02:46 AM

any driver with a healthy motor and lots of xmax coupled with a linkwitz transform.

it's REAAAAAAAAAAAAAL easy to build up a linkwitz transform circuit and piggyback it on the filter board of the plate amp.

sound.westhost.com has the LT
apexjr.com has the cheap 350W plate amps.

I have a stryke AV15 in a box that's 18x18x10 inches (estimated from 15 ft away) and it shakes the house.

Matt

marchel · 23rd January 2008, 03:00 AM

It doesnt matter whether the sub is car audio or home audio, as long as it can take the power , have long xmax. home and car subs have similar parameters.

There are plenty of 12" car subs that would operate in 1.5 ft3 sealed, Try rockford fosgate, JL audio, Mtx, kicker solobaric and other good branded subs, Dont bother with the cheap ones, They're not worth the money, They wont be as good as the more expensive ones.

I also recommend the Dayton RSS315HF-4 12" Reference HF Subwoofer 4 Ohm , it would work well in a 1.5 ft3 box. I'm about to buy 2 myself. And it's reasonably priced at $138- at PE.

20th January 2008, 05:46 PM	#1
jimluu diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2008	Can someone suggest a small enclosure sub? Hi. I'm looking for a 12" or 15" sub that can work in a box of less than 1.5cf. for use to bring up the bottom end of my home 2 channel music system. was looking at the . pioneers any thoughts/suggestions much appreciated. jim.

20th January 2008, 08:05 PM	#2
simon5 diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Québec, Québec	I heavily suggest you to avoid car subwoofers. Especially for home theater. This is a much better subwoofer for a similar price. It will perform much better. It's able to move TWICE the amount of air and handle TWICE the amount of continuous power. http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=295-466 I agree that it's not cute, but the sound quality is head and shoulders above that Pioneer. As you see, the Vas isn't that high at 1.62 cu.ft so it will work well in small boxes. Good luck ! __________________ DIYaudio for President !

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20th January 2008, 09:59 PM	#3
Cro maniac diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Blog Entries: 2	For small box I'd go with Peerless XLS12 and passive radiator. It will work in a very small box, and go very deep with low distortion. http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=297-608 Application note: http://www.tymphany.com/xls-12-subwoofer

23rd January 2008, 12:41 AM	#4
Choots diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2006	You could also build using the High Fidelity version - they make both an 8 ohm and a 4 ohm version. http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=295-464 Here's my 2 cu ft. build thread for reference. My build of ZaphAudio 2 cu.ft Dayton RSS 12" HF Sealed Sub Good luck!

23rd January 2008, 01:09 AM	#5
MPM diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Alabama	http://www.billfitzmaurice.com/T18.html Very musical sub to me. Great price on the driver considering how nice it sounds. A little difficult to build. Take your time and use lots of clamps.

23rd January 2008, 01:38 AM	#6
chipco3434 diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Racine, Wisconsin	Tuba 18 is a giant killer. Great project.

23rd January 2008, 02:16 AM	#7
MikeHunt79 diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bristol, UK	I'd go for the Table Tuba over the T18 for HT, same driver, but then the box is larger... If size is an issue, I imagine you could do far worse than a T18....

23rd January 2008, 02:45 AM	#8
EWorkshop1708 diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Florida	He's just looking for deep bass without lots of space. 12 inch is the way to go, 15 is too big for a small box to play deep notes. The Dayton and Peerless are great subs, but a bit pricey, and the peerless does not have the best power handling if you have a big amp. The Dayton is pretty awesome with the Alumimum cone and big coil, If you shop carefully, you can get a good car sub for not too much money AND get good sound quality. You CAN use a car sub for Home Theater if you get a good sub. IMO Don't get a speaker with a dome or dust cap, because they can come off or get loose and rattle with high power! A Sony 120 or 121P5 Sub in a 1.25 or 1.5cu ft sealed box will go really deep and sound good, the ones with a solid cone and NO dust cap is what you would want. Plays 20hz bass well. http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=4541677

23rd January 2008, 02:46 AM	#9
y8s diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2006	any driver with a healthy motor and lots of xmax coupled with a linkwitz transform. it's REAAAAAAAAAAAAAL easy to build up a linkwitz transform circuit and piggyback it on the filter board of the plate amp. sound.westhost.com has the LT apexjr.com has the cheap 350W plate amps. I have a stryke AV15 in a box that's 18x18x10 inches (estimated from 15 ft away) and it shakes the house. Matt

23rd January 2008, 03:00 AM	#10
marchel diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2007	It doesnt matter whether the sub is car audio or home audio, as long as it can take the power , have long xmax. home and car subs have similar parameters. There are plenty of 12" car subs that would operate in 1.5 ft3 sealed, Try rockford fosgate, JL audio, Mtx, kicker solobaric and other good branded subs, Dont bother with the cheap ones, They're not worth the money, They wont be as good as the more expensive ones. I also recommend the Dayton RSS315HF-4 12" Reference HF Subwoofer 4 Ohm , it would work well in a 1.5 ft3 box. I'm about to buy 2 myself. And it's reasonably priced at $138- at PE.