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Old 6th April 2012, 05:23 PM   #141
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Yea, tekko is right.
I know people that used 2SC-2SA transistors in output instead MJ15024-25 with success.
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Old 6th April 2012, 05:29 PM   #142
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i may be wrong but you should be able to use any power transistor as long as you use enough of them to stay within SOA at given supply voltage and load.
This amplifier output stage is in TEF ???

if it is can i use without it but how??

Replacement for MJ15020 and MJ15021

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Old 6th April 2012, 09:08 PM   #143
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This amplifier output stage is in TEF ???

if it is can i use without it but how??

Replacement for MJ15020 and MJ15021
Output stage is a tripple darlington Emitter Follower (EF) arrangement.
Replacements for MJ15020-21 (tested with success) are MJL1302A - 3281A.
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Old 7th April 2012, 05:10 AM   #144
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Hi Fotios ,
Made your Amplifier long back ago, tested it up to 100-0-100 v d.c. It rocked even on 1 ohm load. I used 10 pairs of 15024-25 in output and 15022-23 in driving. Now I want to give it a try with 2sc5200 and 2sa 1943. Please guide me how many pairs I should use to get same power as 24 25 and up to what limit d.c. will be safer with sc-sa.Any more changes you suggest.
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Old 7th April 2012, 08:09 AM   #145
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thank you for good amp .lm disign it like this and about 1 year its work so fine.its have,nt distortion so so fine
Dear Zakzak, Fotios,

Nice Amplifier, I'm just curious with this circuit. If you don't mind, in your measurement. How many voltage would be measured from Ground to base of 2SC5200/2SA1943 and Ground to base of MJ15024/Mj15025?


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Old 7th April 2012, 09:25 AM   #146
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Output stage is a tripple darlington Emitter Follower (EF) arrangement.
Replacements for MJ15020-21 (tested with success) are MJL1302A - 3281A.
can i use 2sc5200 and 2sa1943 instead of them?
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Hi Fotios ,
Made your Amplifier long back ago, tested it up to 100-0-100 v d.c. It rocked even on 1 ohm load. I used 10 pairs of 15024-25 in output and 15022-23 in driving. Now I want to give it a try with 2sc5200 and 2sa 1943. Please guide me how many pairs I should use to get same power as 24 25 and up to what limit d.c. will be safer with sc-sa.Any more changes you suggest.
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Hi Vedmitra
Thank you so much for your confidence in my amplifier circuit. Wow! +/-100Vdc supply rails, that is amazing! You should get around 2 X 550Wrms/8Ω! Congratulations.
Looking at the datasheet of Toshiba, 2SC5200 - 2SA1943 transistors are rated:
Pcase = 150W
Vce = 230V 2SC5200 / 200V 2SA1943
Ic = 15A
You should keep in your mind that ONsemi (former Motorola) transistors MJ15024 - 25 are unbeatable in robustness. Toshiba are some delicate and from those i remember from CREST PA amplifiers: max +/-90Vdc (90 - 0 - 90 V) and 9 pairs in output.
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Old 7th April 2012, 10:50 AM   #148
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can i use 2sc5200 and 2sa1943 instead of them?
Yes, you could do this in the cost of a small loss in high frequency response.
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Dear Zakzak, Fotios,

Nice Amplifier, I'm just curious with this circuit. If you don't mind, in your measurement. How many voltage would be measured from Ground to base of 2SC5200/2SA1943 and Ground to base of MJ15024/Mj15025?


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Thank you AN214Q for your kind words. I haven't use 2SC5200/2SA1943, never. The only data i have is for the original circuit (pre-drivers MJE15032-33, main drivers MJ15020-21 or alternatively MJL3281A-1302A and output MJ15024-25). For the measurement that you ask:
With input shorted to GND and without load in output, the voltage between the base of output transistors and GND is:
+0.54Vdc at the base of each MJ15024 (NPN) and -0.54Vdc at the base of each MJ15025 (PNP).
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Yes, you could do this in the cost of a small loss in high frequency response.
Then what could be the frequency range ??
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