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Old 15th August 2011, 07:21 AM   #6851
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Default Another option is to buy Chinese pirate copies.... they are just unavoidable

from time to time appear one or two selling.... well... the amplifier is really very good.

Interesting is their price..unbeatable!... we just cannot run group buys because of them...we cannot have 14 bucks for a single board when they offer this small price including components.

So, actually, despite i dislike a lot non authorized copies...i do think if i had money to apply on that i would buy 100 and offer them to our communitty for a very little price.... so..... cooperating with our community instead to go behaving selfish and thinking only in my own bad feelings about the stuff.

Thinking more about the stuff...i am not the circuit owner...no one owns the technology..this came to us from books, teachers, papers and history....it belongs to mankind development... so...my feeling about are selfish, and their lack of decense can be substituted be "a service to the audiophile community" as they are offering a very good amplifier..by a awesome price we cannot match.

I am stopping to trow stones on them...i do think you should buy...because it is a bargain to all of you...and this so nice bargain uncle charlie is unable to provide you.

Ebay has this guy..... 14 bucks.... with parts.... almost unbeliavable.

To the ones are addicted to think about conspiracies...i am not this one...i am not seeling boards or assembled amplifiers;

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Old 15th August 2011, 08:34 AM   #6852
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welcome uncle Charly to "another" part of the game ...

Dont be surprized of the ebay prize ...i find it very reasonable this guy only had to copy a pcb and put together a BOM ... nothing else ...

All the rest needed for the project you ve done your shelf through the efforts of all these years....

Now in real life ...sound history prooved many many many times that the true master minds of sound never managed with the rest of the "company " ...

Look at Bob ....for example a pioneer and a mastermind of sound .... but big screwup when it comes to bussines ...

be happy uncle ... keep working for us !!!! i bet it makes your life happy and our ears happier !!!!

best regards sakis
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Old 15th August 2011, 09:31 AM   #6853
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from time to time appear one or two selling.... well... the amplifier is really very good.

Interesting is their price..unbeatable!... we just cannot run group buys because of them...we cannot have 14 bucks for a single board when they offer this small price including components.

regards,

Carlos
Hello Carlos

At this low price those pirates could use cheap or fake transistors and really cheap chineese capacitors for the pirated DX... I would be carefull and do lot of tests on the parts they included.

But for myself I would not like to support any of those pirates.

At least they value your amps since they copy them, but I doubt that they understand enough about amps to design by themself a good amp.

Bye

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Old 15th August 2011, 09:44 AM   #6854
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What kind of service backup and customer support can these China based fakers offer to their customers?
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Old 15th August 2011, 09:51 AM   #6855
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What kind of service backup and customer support can these China based fakers offer to their customers?
Hello Andrew

I don't think that they give any kind of service backup and customer support, their price are so low that they have a small profit margin and no money for backup and support.

Bye

Gaetan

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Old 15th August 2011, 09:52 AM   #6856
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none ...Andrew .... and to be correct i dont think that any other company non China based will also provide costumer support for a DIy thingy that costs 14 usd ..
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Old 15th August 2011, 10:04 AM   #6857
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Let's suppose 1 million of the various DX fakes are sold around the world. Let's further assume that 1% of these have a problem and with no service manual and no build manual and no schematic and no customer service department.

Where do the 10,000 solution seekers come for help? Half of them with any sense will end up here. Do we want to provide the customer support for 5000 cheapskates who have gone blinkered and bought fakes? I would actively discourage this and have said so in some of my previous posts. If DIYaudio supports these fake purchasers, we Members are in effect supporting the fakers. I don't think we as members should be doing that. I don't think that anyone in DIYaudio should be recommending that fakers are a suitable source of DIYaudio equipment. We should be doing the opposite.

Should we consider asking that the Forum rules be changed to actually prevent us offering technical support for any faked audio equipment?

Time to find out which camp you want to be a Member of.
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Old 15th August 2011, 10:48 AM   #6858
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I agree with Andrew, a smart salesman might actually simply point at this thread and say "all the info is there".
He's making a profit from the added value this forum provides.
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Old 15th August 2011, 11:00 AM   #6859
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I genuinely fear the day when all our schools teach compulsory Chinese language and writing skills.
Why should that ever be necessary? Because all production will be far east based and effectively the World has become a Chinese Commonwealth.

Hopefully not while I am alive, but if we allow things to keep going the way we have seen over the last few decades, then it will be inevitable.
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Old 15th August 2011, 11:39 AM   #6860
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