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Old 12th September 2006, 05:30 PM   #1
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Default arcam alpha 8 amp sounds lifeless

hi just puchased an arcam alpha 8 amp to replace an old technics
st-k808 se-a808 pre /power
when wired into system god was i bored from the first note!
i have checked and double checked connections and everything is round the right way!
has anybody else found this??
it just seems flat and dull and very light bass ( speakers are in phase) and nothing like the old technics. i expected it to be a bit better than that!

i have an upgraded arcam alpha 5 plus cd player
ruark prelude 2 speakers
nad 4020a tuner
linn cable
any ideas guys because even the wife says it its crap!!
should i sell the arcam on and get somthing else??
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Old 12th September 2006, 06:20 PM   #2
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Well, Arcam are never going to win awards for "forward" presentation, but they are accurate and precise. All I can suggest is that you need to get used to it, it's a much better amp than the Technics that you replaced it with.
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Old 12th September 2006, 10:38 PM   #3
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Arcam are neutral amps - they neither add nor subtract anything from the original recording. In my opinion, that's how it should be.
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Old 12th September 2006, 11:09 PM   #4
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Realistically, if a guy doesn't like the sound, advising him to
get used to it or opining that it's how it should be is not very
helpful.

Racman, perhaps you should borrow some other examples of
equipment long enough to see if your wife likes them better.

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Old 13th September 2006, 12:06 AM   #5
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Realistically, if a guy doesn't like the sound, advising him to
get used to it or opining that it's how it should be is not very
helpful.
So, when you build or listen to something new, you instantly pass judgement on it, not giving it time to show what it can do?
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Old 13th September 2006, 12:08 AM   #6
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I too, know the feeling of boredom when listening to a neutral amp.

I can respect the intentions of the manufacturer, and you may even grow to appreciate some characteristics of this amp in time, but I feel you'd get frustrated trying to force yourself to enjoy something that you didn't like on first impressions.
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Old 13th September 2006, 12:29 AM   #7
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if you are sure that Arcam is fully functional (ie-not broken) ,put Technics back and enjoy;
it's name of the game-enjoying in music,not measuring what's more realistic;
after this xperience-next time when you feel ichy to change something,first made some tests (in your home,if you can,than pay.
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Old 13th September 2006, 12:39 AM   #8
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So, when you build or listen to something new, you instantly pass judgement on it, not giving it time to show what it can do?

not to feed Papa's ego-but you say that to man with his mileage under the B(elly)....
he probably hear more different amps than I saw transistors in my 20 years of messing with electronics.....
just a little exaggerating

besides-Arcam-nice example of perfect sell of finest British audio fog...
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http://cgi.ebay.ch/Technics-ST-K808-...QQcmdZViewItem

http://www.arcam.co.uk/alpha/amps/ampalpha8r.html


even just from look,I'm not sure that this Arcam must be superior to this Technics
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...he probably hear more different amps than I saw transistors in my 20 years of messing with electronics...
Oh I agree!

I also sympathise with the suggestion that if you like something, then keep using it. I'm sitting here listening to the radio on a 30 year old transistor portable radio, nothing like hifi, but very enjoyable. But if we never push our boundaries by listening to better equipment, then we might as well just all buy cheap midi systems and give up on the idea of accurate reproduction.


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...even just from look,I'm not sure that this Arcam must be superior to this Technics
Arcam have never produced a product that looks as good as it sounds.
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