Looking for Amp project suitable for a 35V Transformer

[ptrapp]

I have a shielded E+I transformer that delivers a total of +- 180VA, 35V per rail. My intentions were to use it in one of the amps described at the ESP pages, but after thorough examination he didn't seem to be suited.

Does anybody know a 'modest' amp project this tranformer may be usefull for?

Thanks,

Philip Trappeniers

 

[Thoth]

Unfortunately, 180VA at +/-35V is marginal for most amplifier projects. It doesn't stand a chance for any Class-A amp, as the current draw would be too high.

If you're dead set on using this transformer on a project, you should look into a preamp, a DAC, or a similar, low power project. The current drawn by low power projects is usually low enough that your transformer should handle it.

Due to the E/I construction, your transformer will have a tendancy to induce a line-frequency hum in any unshielded wires or traces that are nearby. Placing the power supply in an external case will help.

Sorry.

 

[djk]

When you say 35V per rail is that AC or DC? +/- 35VDC would be fine for a pair of the ESP 3A boards and would give about 50W per channel at 8 ohms with a 180VA transformer.If it is 70VCT AC then it would be fine for powering a mono 100W at 8 ohms for a subwoofer or center channel.Use one pair of MJ21193/21194 if you need 100W at 8 ohms from the ESP 3A.You could drive a 4 ohm load with some cooling(a small fan for both the outputs and transformer).

 

[ptrapp]

That is 35V AC per rail.

Philip

 

[Petter]

180 VA is rather low for good power amp, but excellent for a very nice preamp. How about using the X-series input stage (other thread in solid state forum) or build a Pass clone -- often discussed here or go to the source http://www.passlabs.com

Petter

 

[paulb]

Rod's project pages seem to be down right now, but I think your transformer could power 2 channels of the DeathOfZen amplifier (almost hate to mention it with this crowd...). Use a full-wave Centre Tap arrangement and you should get about 50 Volts DC, single-ended. You could then chop down the 10 volts with his "Capacitance Multiplier", except put a 39V zener from the transistor's base to ground (check if the resistors Rod suggests will give enough idle current for the zener). This should give you what the DoZ requires.
A 180 VA transformer should be able to give you enough DC power.

[Edited by paulb on 09-30-2001 at 07:53 PM]

 

[paulb]

Another idea is to build something based on the LM3876/3886 series, but using a single supply. 50 volts DC would be fine for one of these ICs. Unfortunately, Rod's PCBs are based on the dual supply circuit, but you may be able to kluge something up by adding here, snipping there, etc.

 

[djk]

"That is 35V AC per rail. Philip"
I read this to be 35-0-35AC or 70VCT AC so rectified and filtered that would be +/- 50VDC .One more time.What have we got here?

 

[paulb]

djk, I think you have it right. 35-0-35 AC, +/- 50 VDC with a full wave bridge, or +50 VDC with a full wave CT. Correct, Philip?

 

[ptrapp]

Thanks for all the replies!

I had to be more clear with specifying my transformer:

It is a 35V-20V-0-20V-35V (AC voltages) transformer, rated at 180VA.

Perhaps there exists a possibility in using the 20V taps. However, I think this will result in even less power available.

Greets,

Philip Trappeniers

 

[Fossil]

Perhaps there exists a possibility in using the 20V taps. However, I think this will result in even less power available.
Philip Trappeniers

u can use the 0-20V (<30Vdc) on the DoZ but the rated output will be around 10W only.

 

[paulb]

If you use the 20V taps, you may need to correct the VA rating to:
180 * 40 / 70 = 102 VA
i.e. the maximum current through the windings is limited.
So you could get about 50 watts DC, about .8A at +/- 30 VDC or 1.6A at 30 VDC single-ended. Does that sound right?

Edited; I had these simple calculations wrong the first time.

[Edited by paulb on 10-02-2001 at 01:25 PM]