57 V regulated low noise

Luis P. · 7th February 2006, 11:54 AM

Hello
I need +/- 55 V (2A) regulated for my power ampli which is the best circuit, voltage regulators like LM317HV ? where can I find schematics??
thanks
Luis

AndrewT · 7th February 2006, 01:30 PM

Hi
the datasheet will almost certainly give good and reliable guidance for the circuit.

I would be surprised if a high voltage version of the 317 could manage this requirement on it's own. Expect to need a helper power transistor, but again the datasheet should help.

Eva · 7th February 2006, 01:48 PM

There are several alternatives:

- LM338 is rated at 5A and is very easy to use, like the LM317.

- The LM317 may be current-boosted by adding an external pass transistor. The datasheet shows how to do it, I think.

- A discrete regulator may be considered. There are already plenty of schematics published in internet and in this forum, so all what you have to do is search.

dx.master · 7th February 2006, 02:52 PM

Hello,

this is my solution.

Eva · 7th February 2006, 03:02 PM

Are you aware that any minor input voltage increase will blow Q2 (limited to 500mA and 0.625W) and Q3 (limited to 100mA) ?

dx.master · 7th February 2006, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eva
Are you aware that any minor input voltage increase will blow Q2 (limited to 500mA and 0.625W) and Q3 (limited to 100mA) ?

Yes you must set the right value for R4, i use Iq ~46mA, with Q1 ~80 hfe
.

It's easy to calculate:

Ib (Q1) = Itotal / hfe (Q1) = 2A / 80 = 0,025A

Iq = Ib + I_Q3 = 0,025A + 0,021 A

Vdiff = Vinput - Voutput - 1V (Q1 ECsat) = 65V -57V -1V = 7V
R4 = Vdiff / Iq = 7 / 0,046 = 152 Ohm

Eva · 7th February 2006, 03:16 PM

In these circumstances, with no load, Q2 would be conducting 46mA while whitstandings 45V between C and E, so it would be dissipating more than 2 watts and would porbably blow after a few seconds.

There are other ways to get such a circuit to work properly, for example, by adding a PNP gain stage with its emitter connected to the input, its base driven with Q2 and its collector driving the base of Q1. It would make frequency stabilisation harder due to the additional pole, though.

dx.master · 7th February 2006, 03:34 PM

Hello Eva,

Quote:

Originally posted by Eva
In these circumstances, with no load, Q2 would be conducting 46mA while whitstandings 45V between C and E, so it would be dissipating more than 2 watts and would porbably blow after a few seconds.

Yes you are right, Q2 as to less Power.
I thing more current Gain for Q1 like a Darlington NPN Transistor solve the work.
And with Iq ~ 3mA it ok ?

ilimzn · 7th February 2006, 05:07 PM

There is no reason for using a 200V BUxxx here, as it's current gain is quite low. There are betetr choices. Even a MOSFET could be used but the dropout volage would be high (5-6V).

7th February 2006, 11:54 AM	#1
Luis P. diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2004	57 V regulated low noise Hello I need +/- 55 V (2A) regulated for my power ampli which is the best circuit, voltage regulators like LM317HV ? where can I find schematics?? thanks Luis

7th February 2006, 01:30 PM	#2
AndrewT diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Scottish Borders	Hi the datasheet will almost certainly give good and reliable guidance for the circuit. I would be surprised if a high voltage version of the 317 could manage this requirement on it's own. Expect to need a helper power transistor, but again the datasheet should help. __________________ regards Andrew T.

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7th February 2006, 01:48 PM	#3
Eva diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Near the sea	There are several alternatives: - LM338 is rated at 5A and is very easy to use, like the LM317. - The LM317 may be current-boosted by adding an external pass transistor. The datasheet shows how to do it, I think. - A discrete regulator may be considered. There are already plenty of schematics published in internet and in this forum, so all what you have to do is search.

7th February 2006, 03:02 PM	#5
Eva diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Near the sea	Are you aware that any minor input voltage increase will blow Q2 (limited to 500mA and 0.625W) and Q3 (limited to 100mA) ?

7th February 2006, 03:16 PM	#7
Eva diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Near the sea	In these circumstances, with no load, Q2 would be conducting 46mA while whitstandings 45V between C and E, so it would be dissipating more than 2 watts and would porbably blow after a few seconds. There are other ways to get such a circuit to work properly, for example, by adding a PNP gain stage with its emitter connected to the input, its base driven with Q2 and its collector driving the base of Q1. It would make frequency stabilisation harder due to the additional pole, though.

7th February 2006, 05:07 PM	#9
ilimzn diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Zagreb	There is no reason for using a 200V BUxxx here, as it's current gain is quite low. There are betetr choices. Even a MOSFET could be used but the dropout volage would be high (5-6V).

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