Go Back   Home > Forums > Amplifiers > Solid State
Home Forums Rules Articles Store Gallery Blogs Register Donations FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Solid State Talk all about solid state amplification.

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 5th September 2008, 02:46 AM   #8851
diyAudio Member
 
Wavebourn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
Send a message via Skype™ to Wavebourn
Quote:
Originally posted by john curl
What is wrong here? Is this not the 'Blowtorch' thread? Is it not about trying to make the best of the best, (within reason) in audio designs? Who cares about the average person, in this case? IF serious designers would take 'Blowtorch' ideas and apply them to typical consumer products, then I am sure that audio quality would improve in general. However, we have to fight, tooth and nail, just to get our ideas recognized and accepted at all, even if they are free of extra cost. That is the frustrating part.

...and after we won, there will be lot of followers who will not recognize us, like today trying to get a job in Internet and Intranet industry where I was one of pioneers, I am getting a strong resistance from gray masses. "How many years did you work with the application XYZ?", where all details of that applications may be learned in few hours...
__________________
The devil is not so terrible as his mathematical model!
Wavebourn: We Create Creativity!
 
Old 5th September 2008, 11:02 PM   #8852
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: berkeley ca
What about connecting wire, fellow engineers?
 
Old 5th September 2008, 11:19 PM   #8853
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
>However, we have to fight, tooth and nail,
>just to get our ideas recognized and accepted
>at all, even if they are free of extra cost.
>That is the frustrating part.

Yea. It's always the s**ts when people have
ideas of their own
 
Old 5th September 2008, 11:23 PM   #8854
diyAudio Member
 
Wavebourn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Pleasant Hill, CA
Send a message via Skype™ to Wavebourn
Quote:
Originally posted by john curl
What about connecting wire, fellow engineers?
Do you mean something like Linkedin.com?
__________________
The devil is not so terrible as his mathematical model!
Wavebourn: We Create Creativity!
 
Old 6th September 2008, 12:26 AM   #8855
KBK is offline KBK  Canada
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The Wilds Of Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by john curl
What about connecting wire, fellow engineers?
I have the right to remain silent.

For a few minutes, anyway.

Tick.

Tick.

You are better off running a wire from the middle of a board (if the circuit terminates there), than running a trace to the edge of a board.

This is sonics.. not cosmetic appeal of the innards - to consumers.

Trace design is another art.
__________________
"Never forget that only dead fish swim with the stream." -- Malcolm Muggeridge.
"Truth cannot be brought down, rather the individual must make the effort to ascend to it." -- Jiddu Krishnamurti
 
Old 6th September 2008, 03:42 AM   #8856
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Virginia
Quote:
Originally posted by KBK
You are better off running a wire from the middle of a board (if the circuit terminates there), than running a trace to the edge of a board.
Trace design is another art.
Could this be because of the effect of the manditory high-end ground plane on the signal traces?

Oh, nevermind, the nurse just came in to make sure I've taken my medication....

Tick

Tick

Ahhhh, now I'm on to it! It's the magical properties of the 8N grain oriented hyper-crystal wiring guiding the electric field that swimulates the signal transfer that I'm hearing. FR-4 really modulates the refractive curve!

Back to reality, electrons are stupid; if a wire sounds better than a trace, look around, don't punt.

Mike.

Postscript: I don't doubt that it sounds different, I just question the implication.

Cheers
__________________
"We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question which divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct. " Niels Bohr
 
Old 6th September 2008, 07:09 AM   #8857
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: berkeley ca
I like to use quality wire. The minimum is oxygen free copper with a good insulation. Quality silver is the best that I have tried so far. However, it is expensive, and hard to break-in, and even directional. Darn, what a hassle.
 
Old 6th September 2008, 07:46 AM   #8858
diyAudio Member
 
janneman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Where Germany, The Netherlands and Belgium meet
Blog Entries: 6
From my time in the military I 'inherited' many spools of mil-spec wire. Most of it is multistranded, silver-over-copper, Teflon insulated. I guess there's something better out there, but since I have this I use it and am happy with it.

One issue with multistrand is that the strands easily break at the soldering interface. That's why you always see it tightly strung up in military equipment. Not really diy-friendly. Is that the reason many prefer solid wire?

Jan Didden
 
Old 6th September 2008, 08:35 AM   #8859
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Quote:
Originally posted by john curl
I like to use quality wire. The minimum is oxygen free copper with a good insulation. Quality silver is the best that I have tried so far. However, it is expensive, and hard to break-in, and even directional. Darn, what a hassle.
how do you do the break in?

pink noise/music/sinus/square ??

how much level?

on the spool or off the spool?

how much time is minimum?

with speakers break in is very easy audible, and i hear also interconnects or speaker cable sound for me better after apx. 100 hours in normal use, but i would like to know a technical method to do it to get them right.
 
Old 6th September 2008, 09:18 AM   #8860
diyAudio Member
 
Edmond Stuart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Amsterdam
Quote:
Originally posted by Groove-T
................
and i hear also interconnects or speaker cable sound for me better after apx. 100 hours in normal use
................
:bs::bs::bs:
 

Closed Thread


Hide this!Advertise here!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 05:25 PM.

Page generated in 0.25754 seconds (62.38% PHP - 37.62% MySQL) with 11 queries

Copyright ©1999-2012 diyAudio