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Old 4th November 2005, 03:57 PM   #1
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Hi all
I'm looking for papers about TIM by Otala, Leach, Curl...
Does anyone have electronic versions or .pdf's or knows on-line sources?
I would be very grateful for them since I cannot find anything interesting in Polish libraries
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Old 4th November 2005, 04:25 PM   #2
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You can go to

users.ece.gatech.edu/mleach

for papers by Dr.Leach, scroll down the page for his paper listings.
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Old 5th November 2005, 04:56 PM   #3
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Yes, thank you, but this lacks most essential articles about mechanisms of TIM.
I feel now, that if one wishes to make progress, one should study the masters, thats why I'd like to get them.
And again: I would be gratefull
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Old 7th November 2005, 01:45 AM   #4
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Hi darkfenriz,

Hate to break the news but TIM doesn't exist - You would do well to go directly to the seminal article by Robert Cordell (who knows what he's talking about).

Ref "Another View of TIM" Cordell R. Audio Feb/Mar 1980

It's really Slewing Induced Distortion (SID) in disguise with susceptibility determined by the HF THD.

It's a beat up - though well exploited commercially. Here's my take as published in 1991 -

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Old 7th November 2005, 02:52 AM   #5
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aren't they one and the same? i mean SID and TIM...
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Default Some (bs & history) here...:

http://home.online.no/~tsandstr/OtalaStory.htm

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Old 7th November 2005, 04:39 AM   #7
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This TIM is really a bit of a joke - reminds me of the April fools joke that all the spaghetti trees died in a drought!

Still, bred all these stoopid oversize monster amps and all the hype that goes with them. There are even threads on this forum for the dedicated flat earthers, who think size matters - all a spinoff of this woolly TIM thinking, telling us that their power supplies dictate the sound quality and require oversize this and that! Supersize me. Not.

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reading cordell, what stuck in my mind was that, "do not feed amps signals it can not handle!"

and from leach, "do not let the amp to clip, but in case it does, the output stage transistors must not saturate"
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Old 7th November 2005, 09:38 AM   #9
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Thank you Greg
will think about it.
However I take no one's briliancy for granted, neither Otala's, Cordell's nor yours and I will hopefuly judge myself what is this all about. By now I don't say I agree or disagree... I'm always open for another point of view.
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Old 7th November 2005, 02:09 PM   #10
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Try: http://www.st.com/stonline/products/...re/ds/1459.pdf Page 11.
Its mostly about measuring it, but interesting.

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