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Old 24th September 2005, 09:11 AM   #1
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I am thinking about building a new preamp. The concept is shown in the attached image.
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Old 24th September 2005, 09:46 AM   #2
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Hi PMA,

have you thought once about a folded cascode? Your preamp can modified simply: Connect the base of your third bjt to a constant voltage. Remove the resistor from the collector of the second transitor to ground and connect the collector directly to the negative supply.

The benefits of a folded cascode are:

1. Only one amplifying stage
2. Very high cutoff frequency

I like the output stage you made. But it can be made more simple: Remove the output transistors at the right side and connect two resistors (lets say about 470 ohms) from the drivers to the output. I made something similar and found the results very promising.
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Old 24th September 2005, 09:52 AM   #3
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Hi Pavel
Before I can comment anything I have some questions:
1. What's the RC near diamond buffer? Does it make anthing useful?
2. How do you set low offset voltage?
3. I assume that you are aware that you need very clean rails for your LTP-VAS arrangement and CCSs too, right?

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Old 24th September 2005, 10:00 AM   #4
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Hi bocka and darkfenriz,

B1) The folded cascode is great, I am thinking about comparing more solutions, cutoff frequency of the circuit shown is about 6MHz
B2) I want to keep the lowest output impedance, as I have excellent sound results with it (even if compared to 50 Ohm output impedance)

D1) The RC is a kind of frequency compensation
D2) I do not take into account low DC output offset in this step, this can be solved by standard way (BTW output offset depends on currents through differential pair)
D3) Yes, I am aware of it, again it can be solved by several ways, this is just a concept, which is just able to work
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Old 24th September 2005, 10:28 AM   #5
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The RC is a kind of frequency compensation
Applied along the section of voltage gain of 1....?
Is it class AB output?
On this RC there is a buffer error voltage drop, dividing by RC impedance you get parasitic error current drawn from VAS.
I think you are trying to be mysterious about the point of this arrangement... This seems to generate more distortion at higher frequencies. Or was it just a cure for non-stability on 6Mhz when strange things do happen?

I think I don't have to say that the rest of the circuit is perfect?

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P.S. For some extend your VAS is also folded cascode.
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Old 24th September 2005, 12:32 PM   #6
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I'd connect pre-out stage transistors collectors to out stage transistors emiters. Such step will make output buffer input impedance significantly more linear.
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I'd connect pre-out stage transistors collectors to out stage transistors emiters. Such step will make output buffer input impedance significantly more linear.

isn't it simply an effect of higher bias?
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Old 24th September 2005, 12:53 PM   #8
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It is effect of constant Uce for pre-out transistors.
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Old 24th September 2005, 12:55 PM   #9
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BTW, Pavel, where are emiter resistors for pre-out pair?
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Old 24th September 2005, 02:33 PM   #10
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Quote:
Originally posted by darkfenriz

Is it class AB output?
No, it is class A.


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Originally posted by anli
It is effect of constant Uce for pre-out transistors.
Yes, this is greatly desirable.


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BTW, Pavel, where are emiter resistors for pre-out pair?
Andrej, where would you like the output transistors to travel?
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