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kpero 1st June 2005 08:31 AM

Output stage on amp
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Ok. First and only question is about output transistor. This shematic is orginal and has only one pair of output transistor. It's drive about 120 W in 4 ohms but it also can drive 160 W in 2 o.hms.
Now, is it posible to add one pair of output transistor. Power disipation wil bee far lower on every transistor and there will be little more gain on output. Which modification must be made ,if this can be done?


Sory on bad English :angel:

darkfenriz 1st June 2005 09:28 AM

Re: Output stage on amp

Originally posted by kpero
is it posible to add one pair of output transistor.

sure, but it would be safer if emitter resistors were increased from 0.1 to 0.22

kpero 2nd June 2005 08:37 PM

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Ok. I put two transistor in shematic. Blue line.
Is this good or I must conect diode on colector like D213 and D214 on firs pair.


AndrewT 3rd June 2005 06:31 AM

I don't know what the diodes are doing.
But they are connected to the power rails.
So so do not need to duplicate them.
I just ran an SOAR for one pair MJ15003/4 and your amp is struggling with this loading. For 2 ohm resistive you need about 15mF+15mF smoothing to keep the ripple low enough and must keep the output case temp below 28degC to be right on SOAR limit.

kpero 3rd June 2005 07:06 AM

This is car amp so power capacitor won't be so big. Output transistor are 2sa1673 and 2sc 4300. I don't know is this change thing?
You say it is struggling with one pair. If i put two pair will thing be better?

amplifierguru 3rd June 2005 07:12 AM

We have laws against LOUD car amps here and my past experience of driving in Bangkok ( dodge-em-cars/drag racing no rules) daily are much more relaxed and 'in control' with milliwatts of distraction from the horrible drivers.

Sorry , can't help.

AndrewT 3rd June 2005 07:26 AM

I don't have SOAR data on 1673.
2 pairs will share the load and get you much safer on current draw through each transistor.
Since it is current that produces heat then you are reducing heat stress.
BUT car amp!! What temp are the transistor cases running at? (Tc).

kpero 3rd June 2005 07:53 AM

From data-shet Tc is 25 C with 80 W power. Is that what you looking for?

Temperature range is -20 ,+150. I don't know on which temperature will operate in because i don't have technical info

Duo 3rd June 2005 08:12 AM

It appears that the diodes are there to prevent forward biasing of the CB junctions in the driver transistors.

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