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Old 20th April 2005, 06:40 AM   #1
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Cool my first solid project,discrete WJ buffer

hi all,I am new here.
this is my first try at solid based design.I build this buffer for replacement buffer IC, eg.BUF634.the buffer is biased in CLASS A,purpose for generic use.
thanks sijosae(headwize.com member,diy headphone amp master) for archetype try out,url at here.

original article at here,(Walt Jung's buffer)
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Old 20th April 2005, 09:36 AM   #2
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sch,any suggestions?
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Old 20th April 2005, 10:05 AM   #3
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Hi digi01

How does it sound compare with the BUF634?
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Old 20th April 2005, 10:09 AM   #4
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Hi digi01

How does it sound compare with the BUF634?
and will it drive the same load?
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Old 20th April 2005, 11:08 AM   #5
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First, Zang, if you draw the schematic like everyone else it's easier to read but you have maybe used some software with limited drawing area?

Strive to have power supply a the top and then potentials get lower vertically. Compare Walt's original schematic or mine or anyone's....

A diamond buffer is pretty simple to get working but beware of that this discrete buffer is probably not as good as BUF634. Why? The BUF634 uses GHz transistors probably and they are matched since it's a monolithic device. The current capability is probably not an inssue either.... but it's fun to do something of your own, sure.

I'll guess you already have seen my diamond buffer and also Glassman's?

Notice that both my and Glassman's buffer have something extra to offer. In both cases it's more output power and more current.

If you are after copying sijosae's artwork, ask him first if he do mind.
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VJ's based buffer give better sonic results than 634, but not with this working points ( iddle current ). Current must be higher ( class A ref. to lower load ), so output transistors must be types with higher Pc , for example BD 139/ 140.
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sch,any suggestions?
The sch have a mistake,I.E.,the CCS (of LED and tr) is wrong

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Indeed, that's the drawback of making "odd" schematics. So Zang, the how the LED's should be connected.
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First, Zang, if you draw the schematic like everyone else it's easier to read but you have maybe used some software with limited drawing area?
thank you P-A,I draw the sch via protel basis on mine understanding of Wj buffer.I think it is clear,but...who knows this is my first draw a sch file use protel.


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The sch have a mistake,I.E.,the CCS (of LED and tr) is wrong.
thank you X.G. there are two wrong route of ccs.I have revised it.new file attached,PDF version.


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A diamond buffer is pretty simple to get working but beware of that this discrete buffer is probably not as good as BUF634. Why? The BUF634 uses GHz transistors probably and they are matched since it's a monolithic device. The current capability is probably not an inssue either.... but it's fun to do something of your own, sure.
really,those transistor must be fine mached.I have do it.infact,the buffer that I assembled nothing special.
there are some different to BUF634:
1, buf634 is biased in classAB,with output current limit and bandwidth limit
2,the inner circuit of buf634 is un-adjustable,mine has a number of options.
3,mine is rough compare with factory IC but more fun.


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I'll guess you already have seen my diamond buffer and also Glassman's?
yes,I am happy to surf net and search information that I'm interested.

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If you are after copying sijosae's artwork, ask him first if he do mind.
I have ask for some ideas and experiences from sijosae before,he is my teacher and good friend.


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so output transistors must be types with higher Pc , for example BD 139/ 140.
I use Mhz small power transistor(1A,0.9W)
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Hi digi01

How does it sound compare with the BUF634?

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and will it drive the same load?
I will build another opa637 plus buffer amp for test,I am very glad to compare with the BUF634.Wish it can over...

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