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Giaime · 20th March 2005, 08:07 PM

Yes Chris, I thought so, but the original head has a loose contact inside it on the left channel, that's making noises and sometimes just cuts out. It had to go... Maybe I will find a replacement...

anatech · 20th March 2005, 08:47 PM

Hi Giaime,
Interesting fault. Most heads were defective due to wear. Do you know what kind of head it was? (Glass=Ferrite, permalloy, standard "butter" or Sendust - really good head). Maybe a picture of the original head looking at the face and rear.

-Chris

Giaime · 21st March 2005, 11:45 AM

Nooooooooo! I just asked to my friend what was the thing about that head, and he said that wasn't the original, it's a cheap thing extracted out of a Panasonic portable mono recorder... DoH! The original one just didn't existed: he had this tape from another person already missing it... Bad situation I guess.

How strange: I convinced myself that was the original head because, apart from the lack of treble, it was a clear, spacey-sounding head! Much better than the head I just put in (btw it is even worse: bad hiss, some 50Hz buzz, zero treble and guess what... absolutely mono!)

What do you mean about Glass=Ferrite? It is a metallic head, not a glass one (do they exist? Maybe I just don't know...)

Should I look for a Technics replacement or a specific brand?

Carondimonio · 21st March 2005, 11:49 AM

IIRC, the 615 had Permalloy heads...

Giaime · 21st March 2005, 12:17 PM

So, I've got to ask for "Permalloy" head? Sorry Carondimonio can you tell me the italian word for it if you know? It would be useful...

Carondimonio · 21st March 2005, 12:25 PM

Permalloy sounds the same in every language, I guess... it' s a standard name for a magnetic alloy.
Now, I do not think you can just ask for any Permalloy head out there, put it into your deck and get good results. The electrical characteristics of the head may vary quite a lot.
Try to get on ebayand old Technics deck from the same age (be sure it' s a 2-head deck, though) and get the head from it, chances are the heads are pretty interchangeable. Or try to get the original spare part from Technics/Panasonic, although I doubt it' s still possible to find it.

Ciao,

Bruno

Carondimonio · 21st March 2005, 12:31 PM

Ciao Giaime,

look here:
Technics 615

And no, I' m NOT the seller...

Ciao,

Bruno

Giaime · 21st March 2005, 01:52 PM

Thank you Bruno, but I'm not looking for an original replacement. I got this deck for free and I have fery few cassettes, I just want an average sounding head. One that sounds. I will look in hi-fi and electronic shops...

anatech · 21st March 2005, 08:53 PM

Hi Giaime,
This is scary, I know how to spell your name without looking!

You want a permalloy head because it's in the same family. A different type of head will have specs way out from the original. Older parts jobbers that used to sell cassette heads may have some. Technics did not charge very much for their heads to begin with. So an original may be worthwhile for you. I remember about $20.00 CDN.

If it doesn't work right, you won't use the deck. If it does, you may like it.

Thanks for the info Bruno, I had no idea what type of head it was.

-Chris

Giaime · 22nd March 2005, 12:29 PM

Thank you Chris! Yes, that's scary: many friends that I've known for years can't spell my name... That's a strange one even in Italy (btw it is my real name).

Thanks for the info!

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20th March 2005, 08:07 PM	#21
Giaime diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2004	Yes Chris, I thought so, but the original head has a loose contact inside it on the left channel, that's making noises and sometimes just cuts out. It had to go... Maybe I will find a replacement...

20th March 2005, 08:47 PM	#22
anatech diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Georgetown, On	Hi Giaime, Interesting fault. Most heads were defective due to wear. Do you know what kind of head it was? (Glass=Ferrite, permalloy, standard "butter" or Sendust - really good head). Maybe a picture of the original head looking at the face and rear. -Chris

21st March 2005, 11:45 AM	#23
Giaime diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2004	Nooooooooo! I just asked to my friend what was the thing about that head, and he said that wasn't the original, it's a cheap thing extracted out of a Panasonic portable mono recorder... DoH! The original one just didn't existed: he had this tape from another person already missing it... Bad situation I guess. How strange: I convinced myself that was the original head because, apart from the lack of treble, it was a clear, spacey-sounding head! Much better than the head I just put in (btw it is even worse: bad hiss, some 50Hz buzz, zero treble and guess what... absolutely mono!) What do you mean about Glass=Ferrite? It is a metallic head, not a glass one (do they exist? Maybe I just don't know...) Should I look for a Technics replacement or a specific brand?

21st March 2005, 11:49 AM	#24
Carondimonio diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Bern	IIRC, the 615 had Permalloy heads...

21st March 2005, 12:17 PM	#25
Giaime diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2004	So, I've got to ask for "Permalloy" head? Sorry Carondimonio can you tell me the italian word for it if you know? It would be useful...

21st March 2005, 12:25 PM	#26
Carondimonio diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Bern	Permalloy sounds the same in every language, I guess... it' s a standard name for a magnetic alloy. Now, I do not think you can just ask for any Permalloy head out there, put it into your deck and get good results. The electrical characteristics of the head may vary quite a lot. Try to get on ebayand old Technics deck from the same age (be sure it' s a 2-head deck, though) and get the head from it, chances are the heads are pretty interchangeable. Or try to get the original spare part from Technics/Panasonic, although I doubt it' s still possible to find it. Ciao, Bruno

21st March 2005, 12:31 PM	#27
Carondimonio diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Bern	Ciao Giaime, look here: Technics 615 And no, I' m NOT the seller... Ciao, Bruno

21st March 2005, 01:52 PM	#28
Giaime diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2004	Thank you Bruno, but I'm not looking for an original replacement. I got this deck for free and I have fery few cassettes, I just want an average sounding head. One that sounds. I will look in hi-fi and electronic shops...

21st March 2005, 08:53 PM	#29
anatech diyAudio Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Georgetown, On	Hi Giaime, This is scary, I know how to spell your name without looking! You want a permalloy head because it's in the same family. A different type of head will have specs way out from the original. Older parts jobbers that used to sell cassette heads may have some. Technics did not charge very much for their heads to begin with. So an original may be worthwhile for you. I remember about $20.00 CDN. If it doesn't work right, you won't use the deck. If it does, you may like it. Thanks for the info Bruno, I had no idea what type of head it was. -Chris

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22nd March 2005, 12:29 PM	#30
Giaime diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2004	Thank you Chris! Yes, that's scary: many friends that I've known for years can't spell my name... That's a strange one even in Italy (btw it is my real name). Thanks for the info!