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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Hi,
I see, the question is too common, nevertheless I'll try :-) Please, suggest a _musically_checked_ schematics for power amplifier: - with approximately 20-30W power peak (8 Ohm load), - balanced (bridge) symmetric topology is preferable, - MOSFETs in output stage are preferable, - without capacitors and transformers in signal path, - global NFB absence is preferable. Andrew |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Long Island, New York
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Try the Pass Labs Forum. Maybe an Aleph or a Zen amp.
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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As you can see, I have mentioned "balanced symmetrical" topology,
as one of the aim is to make an amplifier more power-effective. Such topology is not "Nelson's path", I think :-) |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Scottish Borders
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Hi,
could the front end of a Leach meet part of your requirement? regards Andrew T. |
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Long Island, New York
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Are you not looking for a class A amplifier? Efficiency and class A are not usually used in the same breath. The Aleph X is the closest I can think of.
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Clearly you are not interested in single ended topologies because of the low efficiency.
Meaning you want a push-pull output stage. Secondly, you have no preference for a balanced design or amplifiers in bridged mode, as long as it has a balanced entrance. That means practically any low power Mosfet push-pull design will do with the following constraints : - A symmetrical circuit. - DC coupled. - No global feedback. The latter is arguemental, for the last 20 years audio designers are talking local feedback. As that still leaves a number of possible amplifier designs you may need to make a couple of choices more : - a fully discrete circuit ? - without a DC servo ? - Easy to build ? - Maximum cost ? For example: If you do not object to opamps in a circuit and a opamp DC servo, with a couple of IRF630/IRF9630, a 5534 opamp and a OP07 for the servo it is possible to build a reliable amplifier fast, the circuit components are probably less than $10 per channel. There are a number of circuits like that around with proven results. !!!! Just an example, of course there are way better components, i just mentioned a couple of cheap components !!!! Other designs may call for selecting the components, or the need for a scope to measure and tweak the circuit. For simple designs downloading a small scopefile for the pc soundcard from your fellow russian at edu.ru and a simple tonegenerator will do. Important questions may also be : - What is in front of the power amplifier ? - What kind of speakers does it need to power ?
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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much more efficiency rather SE or something like SuperSymmetric has. |
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Jacco,
I'll try to clarify: - as I have said, I mean push-pull balanced topology with balanced input (I have some ideas about discrete balanced line drive, but they are rather young :-), - I'd prefer global NFB absence, but 5-6db feedback (to set output shifting and output dumping factor) is not rejected at all, - fully discrete, - without DC servo; I'm not afraid of 100-150mV shifting :-) between balanced output, - two PS are possible, for example stabilized +/-50V for all except for output stage with single 30-40V PS, - hard to build :-), - cost... OK, I can say "not too expensive". At any case an amplifier sinks, box and transformers will have the main cost, I think, - I have a scope, a signal generator, a software to see FFT ans so on on PC, - speakers have standard design. Probably you can see, my English isn't perfect. Please, explain me these words meaning: "front of the power amplifier". br, Andrew |
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Prague, Kitakyushu, Fukuoka
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I was thinking about similar circuit you are speaking about, but did not find time enough to realize - maybe later.
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Hi, Andrew.
With "in front" i mean what pre you intend to use with the power amplifier. I think you should take a look at Mr Erno Borbely site. He did a modular balanced symmetrical Class A Mosfet power amplifier in the '90s. One of the versions is DC-coupled. In Class A it does 50 watts, if you'd like it less lower the bias or the voltage.
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