Krell KSA100 or DIY JLH 15W

chris ma · 8th July 2002, 04:40 PM

Gents,
I need help, right now I have a guest(old, old buddy) from out of country staying with us; and after a couple of bottles of wine catching up with the good old times(young nes) the subject turned to power amps and it got into a heated discussion. Since I am now in the process of building a pair of JLH 2002 version, my buddy scorn on the idea spending $2000cdn to build one can not compare to a used Krell KSA100 wth the same amount. Seems like he is a true believer of Krell. For myself I have never had any experience with Krell, but then he has never listen to the JLH.
So if any of you happen to know both the Krell KSA100 and the JLH class A 15W, please comment; I WOULD LOVE TO prove my buddy wrong of course and have the excuse to have another bottle of wine and continue to argue with him. Let him take home with the DIY is not such a rubbish idea. Or maybe he is right?

Regards,
Chris

kevin gilmore · 9th July 2002, 01:03 AM

Being a Krell man myself i tend to agree with your friend.
The best part of a krell other than the sound is the build
quality. You can certainly build something yourself of the
same quality, but it is a massive amount of work to do
so. Especially all the thermal requirements for running the
output sections fairly hard into the class A region. Circuit
boards with matched impedance output conductors is
not an easy thing to do by hand.

Krell's best products are by far the power amps. The preamps
can be duplicated fairly easily, The speakers sound pretty
thin, the surround processors go obsolete every 6 months...
Audio jewelry to say the least.

chris ma · 15th July 2002, 08:26 PM

Well then, what about a used Krell KSA100 and DIY pass class A ?
Which one is better off sonically?

Peter Daniel · 15th July 2002, 08:37 PM

We compared my Aleph 5 to Krell KST 100 at http://www.audiooasis.com.
The Aleph was better.

Ian Macmillan · 15th July 2002, 09:47 PM

Hardly a fair comparison, the KST100 was always a poor cousin even within the Krell range. The KSA80 blew the KST100 into the weeds last time I heard a comparison (some while ago now). Now a comparison with a modern Krell, e.g. FPB series would be much more interesting...

Ian.

Peter Daniel · 15th July 2002, 09:53 PM

Unfortunately it was the only Krell available. Around here they are not really popular.

8th July 2002, 04:40 PM	#1
chris ma diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Pickering, Canada	Krell KSA100 or DIY JLH 15W Gents, I need help, right now I have a guest(old, old buddy) from out of country staying with us; and after a couple of bottles of wine catching up with the good old times(young nes) the subject turned to power amps and it got into a heated discussion. Since I am now in the process of building a pair of JLH 2002 version, my buddy scorn on the idea spending $2000cdn to build one can not compare to a used Krell KSA100 wth the same amount. Seems like he is a true believer of Krell. For myself I have never had any experience with Krell, but then he has never listen to the JLH. So if any of you happen to know both the Krell KSA100 and the JLH class A 15W, please comment; I WOULD LOVE TO prove my buddy wrong of course and have the excuse to have another bottle of wine and continue to argue with him. Let him take home with the DIY is not such a rubbish idea. Or maybe he is right? Regards, Chris

15th July 2002, 09:47 PM	#5
Ian Macmillan diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cambridge, UK	Aleph 5 vs Krell KST 100 Hardly a fair comparison, the KST100 was always a poor cousin even within the Krell range. The KSA80 blew the KST100 into the weeds last time I heard a comparison (some while ago now). Now a comparison with a modern Krell, e.g. FPB series would be much more interesting... Ian.

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9th July 2002, 01:03 AM	#2
kevin gilmore diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: wheeling illinois	Being a Krell man myself i tend to agree with your friend. The best part of a krell other than the sound is the build quality. You can certainly build something yourself of the same quality, but it is a massive amount of work to do so. Especially all the thermal requirements for running the output sections fairly hard into the class A region. Circuit boards with matched impedance output conductors is not an easy thing to do by hand. Krell's best products are by far the power amps. The preamps can be duplicated fairly easily, The speakers sound pretty thin, the surround processors go obsolete every 6 months... Audio jewelry to say the least.

15th July 2002, 08:26 PM	#3
chris ma diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Pickering, Canada	Well then, what about a used Krell KSA100 and DIY pass class A ? Which one is better off sonically?

15th July 2002, 08:37 PM	#4
Peter Daniel diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada	We compared my Aleph 5 to Krell KST 100 at http://www.audiooasis.com. The Aleph was better.

15th July 2002, 09:53 PM	#6
Peter Daniel diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada	Unfortunately it was the only Krell available. Around here they are not really popular.