Go Back   Home > Forums > Amplifiers > Solid State
Home Forums Rules Articles Store Gallery Blogs Register Donations FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Solid State Talk all about solid state amplification.

Please consider donating to help us continue to serve you.

Ads on/off / Custom Title / More PMs / More album space / Advanced printing & mass image saving
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 19th July 2004, 09:07 PM   #31
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Nottingham, England
Paulmc, I understand your diagram very well and it is exactly this arrangement I have been refering to all along.

Clearly for pure DC anything less than +/- 1V cannot pass through but we're not really talking about DC, the only way of seeing DC on an AC waveform is by integrating it.

The point I'm trying to make is that if you apply AC with an offset (the reality), this diode arrangement won't have much effect except for reducing the ampitude of both halves of the waveform by two diode drops, it can't possibly remove the offset because the diodes directly couple the input to the output.
  Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2004, 01:51 AM   #32
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: US
Quote:
Originally posted by Richard C
The point I'm trying to make is that if you apply AC with an offset (the reality), this diode arrangement won't have much effect except for reducing the ampitude of both halves of the waveform by two diode drops, it can't possibly remove the offset because the diodes directly couple the input to the output.
an A/C with offset is the same as a DC + A/c with no offset.

The cap will function the same in either situation. and diode really doesn't do anything here in terms of removing A/C.
  Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2004, 09:11 AM   #33
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Nottingham, England
Quote:
Originally posted by millwood


an A/C with offset is the same as a DC + A/c with no offset.

The cap will function the same in either situation. and diode really doesn't do anything here in terms of removing A/C.

Paulmc seems to be thinking of simple DC rather than DC which is riding on the back of much larger AC.

The key components in a DC blocker are the capacitors which should be large so that they present a low impedance at mains frequencies, the diodes should rarely conduct if at all.

The claims for the Humbuster state that it's the diodes that remove the DC and this is what puzzled me about it. The capacitors appear to be several thousand times too small to be effective.
  Reply With Quote
Old 20th July 2004, 06:47 PM   #34
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Munich
Hi!
I also thought that the caps are the key components and the diodes are used to clamp the max voltage across the cap.
...which is in heavy mismatch to the statement of paulmc...

On the other hand paulmc gave the technical details of his product
and tried to convey how it works. His behaviour does not look like someone who sells expensive but effectless circuits...

Hm, do we miss out something?
..may be some interaction with the nonlinear inductive
transformer load...?
Anybody out there who tried it?
My mains supply has nearly no Offset, so I cannot test it (less than 5mV, measured behind a passive filter of 200k and 5x10uF MKT, which reduces the AC component to some millivolts and overdrive of DMM is no issue)....

My two fat 1kVA torroids make some noise, not matter if I put 100.000 uF in series or not. Their noise is definitely not related to DC saturation.....

Bye
Markus
  Reply With Quote
Old 22nd July 2004, 04:24 AM   #35
diyAudio Member
 
SmarmyDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: San Diego, CA
Perhaps the brief dead time that occurs during the zero-crossing when no diodes are conducting is long enough in duration to allow the core to reset (or at least get much closer to resetting) so that any cumulative bias is reduced or eliminated. Using two diode drops could be the minimum dead-band for a noticeable improvement.

Yes, it is quite possible I have no idea what I just said, but I’m gonna stick my name under it anyway…

-Casey Walsh
  Reply With Quote
Old 19th October 2008, 05:17 PM   #36
klonius is offline klonius  Croatia
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Default PS AUDIO Humbuster

Does anyone have a full schematic for diy humbuster?
  Reply With Quote
Old 1st October 2010, 04:21 AM   #37
Ulisez is offline Ulisez  Mexico
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Right now, Mexico
Quote:
Originally Posted by klonius View Post
Does anyone have a full schematic for diy humbuster?
Yep that would be great.
  Reply With Quote
Old 1st October 2010, 06:36 AM   #38
Mooly is offline Mooly  United Kingdom
diyAudio Member
 
Mooly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
They all use the same technique... project here
Mains DC and Transformers
__________________
-------------------------------------------------------
A simulation free zone. Design it, build it, test it.
  Reply With Quote
Old 22nd April 2011, 12:29 PM   #39
CCD is offline CCD
diyAudio Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Hello All.

@ paulmc

you have Schematics?

CCD
  Reply With Quote

Reply


Hide this!Advertise here!

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Only N-Channel MOSFETs (NMOS); better Audio from non complements by Audio Power? tiefbassuebertr Solid State 43 22nd January 2012 12:50 PM
For Sale Or Trade: Adire Audio Brahma, Rythmik Audio Plate Amp tmort Swap Meet 5 27th June 2009 12:29 AM
Need schematic for Elevation Audio DX1500.1/Sundown Audio SAZ-1500D jaimegmr Car Audio 0 5th May 2009 06:39 PM
Looking for analog audio circuit designers and audio researchers cnotley Everything Else 1 29th September 2008 09:04 PM
Question about DIY 'Humbuster' schematic Glowbug Power Supplies 8 14th March 2006 03:57 AM


New To Site? Need Help?

All times are GMT. The time now is 05:04 PM.

Page generated in 0.10672 seconds (79.31% PHP - 20.69% MySQL) with 11 queries

Copyright ©1999-2012 diyAudio