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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: MTL
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I've been searching for a good thread that lists all the information
on building a sub/bass amplifier and it's constraints ... So i would like to ask you all knowledge people , to list and talk about the details implicated in building a good subwoofer amplifier in general ( not for a particular sub unit ) What are the limitations in this kind of amplifier? What can we "cut" to save because of absence of high frequencies ( this amp needs to be good working up to 1KHz max) Wich is the best method for low Hz power and precision ? From what i read, our ears do not perceive good resolution in the 500hz and lower region, so could we compromise sound qualiyt for Oumph and power without any perceived degradation in sound quality ? what kind of design is best suited for this application... and also specify electronics that require special needs for lower Hz region ( PSU requirements? sotrage caps? wiring ? current? ) Thanks all for your time! |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mumbai
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hi
for starters you have to take into consideration the driver - your amp should be rated way higher than the driver - to avoid clipping damage to the driver next is the input circuitry consideration - this is where i find most people turning a blind eye a powered sub is not an amp and spk in a box you have to be good at the input circuitry - 24 db cross over beow 200 hz + active bass linear correction network + a good quality parametric equalizer + a bass boost if you opt for the linear bass correction network it will give you linear bass spl upto 20 hz that requires heavy amplification + power supply best choice for such an amp will be a rugged - mosfet - more in parallel the better regardless of the power rating the power supply should be bifiliar winding primary + secondary = with 2 bridge rectifiers and lots of capacitance 1,00,000 for starters per rail and the va best at 2 X (times) the power rating if you go in for all this the next would be the box - you need a real rock solid enclosure then you can really push lows as much as you like suranjan transducer design engineer |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: MTL
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thank you for the info!
![]() I don't really understand what you are talking about in terms of input circuitry...is low pass with quality harder to realise than a high pass filter? personally my next project for sub is a 15 or 18" transfer line with an external amplifier ( might just sit on top of it ) something in the 8 to 10' long enclosure ..typical taper TL design i do not have any good resssources for the driver yet, so i do not know of any specs .. this will be ultimatl played in conjunction of a pair of ESL pannels for md and highs, and the crossover point shoould be set in the 500hz region ( 500 to 700hz ) Capacitance storage is really needed that much ? why is bass harder to drive than highs? is it because of the excursion of the drivers that asks for more current? paralell mosfet is a la "slone" optimos design right? this is a trade off for power on higher distort? is there any parts of amplification that we do not need to take care of when working only with sub 1Khz ? thanks again |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Knoxville
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A good sub amp is usually direct coupled to the speaker. Best to use op-amps for the active low-pass filters for the input, can make the Fc adjustable with a pot. Most sub woofers don't respond well above 100Hz, and as freq. increases, so does the inductance reactance of the speaker coil. The most important thing is that it has a stable DC bias. If you use an OP-AMP for the differential amp stage, a very stable DC bias is possible, and you get no
Don't expect to get high freq. responce from an OP-AMP diff. circuit on account of the slew rate. But for low freq., this may work well. Anyway this can seriously simplify your project.
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