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Old 12th April 2004, 12:41 PM   #1
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Have any of you guys heard Aunt Coreys Preamp and have any commnents of the sonics of this unit? Thanks
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Old 12th April 2004, 12:43 PM   #2
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I would also like to know whatever happen to Corey. I don't see his writing anymore.
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Old 12th April 2004, 12:47 PM   #3
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And that is a bad thing????

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The "design" was just a pair of BUF-03s. Now, that's not damning with faint praise, the BUF-03 was a fine chip (though it runs WARM). And unless you do something stupid in the layout to make it hum, buzz, or oscillate, it will be totally transparent in the sense that you will not be able to distinguish output from input by ear alone.
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The "design" was just a pair of BUF-03s.... it will be totally transparent in the sense that you will not be able to distinguish output from input by ear alone.
Wow. That's great -- perfection achieved here on earth. I guess all the amp designers can go home now, they're all obsolete.

I could be wrong as I must be somewhat dense in this regard. I haven't even found a lowly wire or metal film resistor that is "totally transparent". Your mileage may vary.
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Old 14th April 2004, 03:26 PM   #6
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Now Chas, be nice!




Just as resistors and caps vary, so do ears....



You can do a lot worse than a BUF03 or BUF634, just as you can do a bit better. If the worst component he had in his system was a klone of the Aunt Corey's preamp direct coupled, it could be a pretty fair system!

Not everyone has an Ayre K5x preamp for comparison! How does one explain that an active preamp can sound better in the right system configurations than a passive preamp using Shallco based attenuators? But it's true....

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Aunt Corey was last spotted as an NBC correspondent covering the CES.
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Old 14th April 2004, 04:35 PM   #8
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I haven't even found a lowly wire or metal film resistor that is "totally transparent". Your mileage may vary.
Assertion is easy. Evidence is tougher. If you've got real evidence, JAES is waiting with bated breath. Showing up Lipshitz, Greiner, et al would be quite a coup, and would definitely not hurt your business

Obligatory Disclaimer: I am not in the business of selling boxes of gain claimed to "sound better" than normal, competent electronics.
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Obligatory Disclaimer: I am not in the business of selling boxes of gain claimed to "sound better" than normal, competent electronics.
So, you only want your boxes of gain to sound as good as "normal, competent electronics"? What is that standard? Is that the standard set by all the marvelous $60 DVD players you can buy at CostCo, Wal-Mart, and Best Buy?

Do enough listening, and you may change your mind.

I'm not in the business of selling any kind of boxes of gain; well, not these days. But time after time I have heard these differences between "competent" electronics and others- even when not expecting or wanting to!

And have concluded fairly often that "competent" electronics, as I think you define, are often not so good. Otherwise I would not have easily heard things I didn't like about one of my own first solid state amplifiers (which actually was sold in a commercial design) compared with a Conrad Johnson tube amplifier- even though my own design would put out over 100 watts at THD and IMD of 0.004% or less- in fact, lead dress of every production unit was checked using the distortion analyzer, to assure this level of performance. BTW, this was in the late 70's. And this was a so-called low TIM design, with an SR of > 100V/usec, using a JFET front end, and an emitter follower triple output stage (yes, based on the Bart Locanthi circuit). Fortunately, for me, I've learned a lot over the years, both on the bench and in listening. And my current designs sound a lot better than that late 70's era amplifier.

Curiously, an amplifier I did earlier in the 70's sounded better than the one described above, even though it didnt' measure as well in some conventional ways- in large measure because of the power supply and attention to components and their sound, I believe. That one would clean the clock of top of the line Luxman solid state amps, SAE, and even the 150 watt per channel Stax Class A. So, progress and learning are not always at an even pace, and one ignores lessons past learned at one's own risk.



And if all this stuff about "boxes of gain" is too annoying for you, Just try to design and build a really good interconnect or speaker cable some time....

Of course, you may be happy with some 12 AWG zip cord from Home depot. And while I can point to why the cables I use measure better at audio frequencies than zip cord speaker wires, I don't really know enough to think I can tell you why they sound better in the ways they do...

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Have any of you guys heard Aunt Coreys Preamp and have any commnents of the sonics of this unit? Thanks
I built one years ago, still have the board lying around (all hardwired) but stole the power supply for something else. In an a/b test (level matched!) with a Sonic Frontiers SFL 2 preamp, we couldn't tell the difference. So I guess it was pretty good, considering the price difference.

I'm actually thinking of reviving the project, as right now I'm using a passive attenuator who's output impedence is too high, at worst case its 30kHz out and my amp is only 20kHz in! Other thought is a simple JFET buffer based on Borbely's writings, John Curl has confirmed that the design is very low distortion.

The Buf-03 does run hot, needs a heatsink, and it's long out of production.

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