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Old 6th April 2004, 11:33 PM   #1
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Default Help! Fixing Amp.

Hi Guys.

My Hsu Research sub made a buzzing noise and then was all quiet. Fuse was blown. The replaced fuse blew as soon as I turned it on. I opened up the plate amp and noticed the circuit board burnt beneath a transistor. I replaced that transistor and tried but it blew the fuse again.
I'm attaching a pic (I was surprised to see the size of the amp module, so small!!). I checked the power trafo and it's putting out +/- 38 V. Please help fixing or salvaging this.
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Old 7th April 2004, 08:01 AM   #2
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I would guess you have a short in one of your output transistors.
I am only guessing but it looks like a driver for the output transistors and if that one burns my first guess is that the output transistor is pulling too much current.

This is completely without knowing the schematic of your amplifier.

A picture of the other side of the PCM could help but a schematic would make it easier.
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Old 7th April 2004, 09:35 AM   #3
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same here the burning around the voltage regulater is normal
over time it cooks the board. when u find the problem u could try
a heatzinc on it

allso try testing the rectifier bridge allso
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Old 7th April 2004, 10:08 AM   #4
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What are those IC105 104. Fixed voltage regulators?

What are they driving to cause the heat? The 105 is a bit white which if i am not mistaken indicates that it has been hot.

Could be a short in that one too?
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Old 7th April 2004, 03:24 PM   #5
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Thanks for the input guys.

hjelm, 105 is not white, it's just flash reflection.

I tested the diodes on the board and one seems defective (reads both ways). Should I replace this or should I test other components as well before replacing the diode?

How can I test the bridge rectifier and the transistors? Using a continuity tester on the transistors, both of them look like they are shorted. The transistors are Toshiba C5198 and Tosh A1941.

Thanks in advance for all the help.
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Old 7th April 2004, 03:41 PM   #6
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Yes, I would check all the transistor and diode junctions before powering it up with new outputs. Also, I suggest running the power through a short lamp during power-up test.
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Old 7th April 2004, 05:04 PM   #7
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what is a short lamp and how do you use it?
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Old 7th April 2004, 05:13 PM   #8
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It is an incandescent bulb which is temporarily connected in series with the power transformer primary for test purposes. Most of the time, I used a 60w 120v one because we have 120v AC mains over here. It limits the current that can be applied to a faulty circuit.
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Old 7th April 2004, 05:54 PM   #9
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Short lamp is one of the best insurance Policies while repairing amps... I don't know why many people don't use them more.

Replace the outputs and drivers and then run the amp via the bulb. if the bulb stays lit then you have an issue, if it dies down after the initial charge-up, then pass some signal through the amp. All may be ok...

Usually a burnt out driver means a Collector to Base short on the outputs. The drivers do not usually die fast unless the otputs are dumping the rail voltages into them. The drivers usually blow the resistance feeding the base of the outputs first.... changing the outputs is THE first thing a tech looks at when fuses blow.

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Old 7th April 2004, 10:52 PM   #10
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OK guys, here is the latest:

I replaced the components highlited on the pic and tested it using the short lamp (40 Watt bulb).

When I switch the amp on, the bulb will turn on really bright and then stays lit. The transistors get real hot.

So there is still a problem. What else can I change? How to test the bridge rectifier?
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