Krell KSA 50 PCB

Hi,
your temperature does not add up.

400mV & 0r68 =145W of dissipation.
Without de-rating the two sinks, the delta T is 29Cdeg.
Add on Tc deltaT and ambient and you're probably over 60degC for Tc.
Still OK, but I suggest you fit a latching temperature switch on each sink.

What would it cost (finance & aesthetics) to double the size of the sinks?
Then you can try to fully bias the output stage to 1.9A (or a little more) instead of 1.76A
 
I would be interested in a KAV-250, but it would have to be down the road once I get back on my feet. I've made progress, but not there yet.

As for me doing the kit GB, maybe in a year, certainly not right now.

I drew this diagram of the pwr supply for the people who bought my Krell that I had to sell.

Is it worth putting in the Wiki for an example?
 

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I had to dig this thread out of solid state - page 5!

Last night I realized that my KSA50 may be my favorite of all my amps right now. It just seems to be the one that does almost everything right - at the moment, and with the rest of my stuff.

Thanks to all that contributed.


....... now if we could only see them XA schematics:) ;) :clown:
 
Commercial KSA50 exploration

Hi all,

I had the opportunity to investigate a commercial KSA50 Mk2, courtesy of Jozua. I didn't remove the boards, but will do so soon and reverse-engineer the circuit diagram. However, just by peeking inside revealed a few interesting facts already. There are much less difference to the Mk1 clone than between the KSA100 Mk1 and Mk2.

Similarities:

- Most of the resistor values visible are the same as the clone's, e.g. 3x 1k5 per rail, 24ohm driver emitter resistors etc.
- Same 2SC2240/2SA970 diff stage.
- Same MJE15030/15031 driver stage.
- Same 2x 1000uF feedback cap.
- Same speaker protection relay circuit as on the KSA100 Mk2.

Differences:

- No relay soft-start. If there is a thermister such as on the KSA100 Mk1, it must be tucked away very deeply as I couldn't see one anywhere.
- There is a large 2.2uF film cap on the board. It's possibly a bypass for the feedback cap.
- There are weird restors tack-soldered on top of the boards close to the input. They aren't Dales like the rest, but it also doesn't look like a DIY mod.
- As discussed sometime earlier on the thread, there are two pairs of 2SC2238/2SA968 transistors, compared to the clone's one pair. However, since there are no additional transistors, perhaps it's simply used instead of the MPSA42/92 as on the clone.
- No Mosfets or current diodes as in the KSA100 Mk2.
- The emitter resistors are 0.5ohm instead of the 1ohm used in most other commercial KSA's.
- Bus voltage is much higher than expected at 47VDC, loaded. This is with the primaries connected for 240VAC - our power is 230V so it should be around 49V. A KSA100 runs at about 56V loaded.
- Very interesting is that there is something mounted on the rear panel (looks almost like a fuse but don't didn't want to try open it since it looks kind of flimsy). It has two terminals on the inside, one connected to the right channel's positive speaker output, and the other to a certain node on the left channel's PCB. Anybody has any idea what this could be?

Pierre
 
Re: Commercial KSA50 exploration

PWatts said:
It has two terminals on the inside, one connected to the right channel's positive speaker output, and the other to a certain node on the left channel's PCB. Anybody has any idea what this could be?

Pierre

Perhaps shorting the terminals will feed the rt channel OP into the left channel input diff ... thereby enabling the amp to be bridged...?