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Old 4th December 2011, 02:48 AM   #8321
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The IVa has the ribbon tweeters that really make a difference, I think the IV had a quasi ribbon tweets...

Why bother buying a KSA-80, lets just clone it! The output devices and raw components probably are much better now than on the original KSA-80
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Old 4th December 2011, 02:59 AM   #8322
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Yea... I have the gerber data to make those boards if you don't have it. Lots of complicated transistor matching to do for that amp and the fets are also hard to get. PCB's would be fairly costly per set... Modding an existing amp would be far easier... Typically 1200.00 to 1800.00 to buy and oh that nice metal work Krell did for those amps that would cost as much as a complete used amp to duplicate. Making a KSA 160 out of a KSA-80 is very easy and KSA-80's are more common.

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Old 4th December 2011, 03:06 AM   #8323
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There are a pair of KSA-160s on Agon now. $3900 (ouch)

I have a gutted KSA-300 chassis that I am planning to put a pair of KSA-50 amps into, or a ICEPower module with the KSA-50 for biamping. That chassis went thru hell and back when I got it (amp literally burst into flames with previous owner) - sandblasted it and anodized it black a year ago...
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Old 4th December 2011, 03:10 AM   #8324
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I was fortunate to have a nice KSA 80 fall into my lap a few years ago. It sat neglected for a while, after it started popping and thumping loudly in one channel. After letting it lay idle for a year or more, I brought it into the factory with me one day, and had one of my techs look it over (I am too lazy to get in there myself…). When he opened it up, a bunch of micas came falling out like discarded termite wings. All the plastic fasteners holding the driver and bias transistors to the common heat sink had crumbled, and some of the parts were leaking to the blue metal strip that serves as a heat sink.

We replaced the errant hardware and insulators, and the noise was gone. I haven't reset the bias- the amp is running a little cool at the moment, and one channel is slightly cooler than the other. But it still sounds excellent!

I have a pair of driver boards partially built up to replace these if they ever go South… but they will probably end up going into a new amplifier one day.
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Old 4th December 2011, 04:28 AM   #8325
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KSA50 Pinkmouse's board, 3 pair 2SA1943/2SC5200, Biased to 650mv across .68ohm emitter resistors, 36VDC rails...so a biased up a little more than the KSA50,
Are the Jim audio KSA100 boards on fleabay good ...?

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The IVa has the ribbon tweeters that really make a difference, I think the IV had a quasi ribbon tweets...

Why bother buying a KSA-80, lets just clone it! The output devices and raw components probably are much better now than on the original KSA-80
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Yea... I have the gerber data to make those boards if you don't have it. Lots of complicated transistor matching to do for that amp and the fets are also hard to get. PCB's would be fairly costly per set... Modding an existing amp would be far easier... Typically 1200.00 to 1800.00 to buy and oh that nice metal work Krell did for those amps that would cost as much as a complete used amp to duplicate. Making a KSA 160 out of a KSA-80 is very easy and KSA-80's are more common.

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True , then you still have to go thru and refurbish the amp... added cost ..


For what it's worth Agostino did tell me he will service Krell amplifiers if need be , just contact him at his new gig ..

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Old 4th December 2011, 11:45 AM   #8326
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Are the Jim audio KSA100 boards on fleabay good ...?
I have never dealt with Jim Audio's KSA100 Boards, haven't heard anything bad....

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True , then you still have to go thru and refurbish the amp... added cost ..
Price to refurb a unit would be quite costly...

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For what it's worth Agostino did tell me he will service Krell amplifiers if need be , just contact him at his new gig ..
Not to nit pick, but its D'Augustino, not Augustino, correct?
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Old 4th December 2011, 12:36 PM   #8327
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Are the Jim audio KSA100 boards on fleabay good ...?
FWIW, I have a pair of jims KSA-100 boards. Very nice boards, highest of quality. If I remember correctly there is an error on the silkscreen somewhere, a diode or cap printed reversed or something. They are a little larger than an original board, but otherwise the layout of the pcb is almost a carbon copy of the original.
I have not build anything with the boards and have not examined them very closely, so I don't know if there are other problems with the boards.

If you like I can send you the BOM and schematics I received from jim when I purchased the boards.

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correct?
September two years ago it was Marchino.
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Old 4th December 2011, 12:45 PM   #8329
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