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Mattyo5 24th January 2004 12:57 PM

Another new Rod Elliot amp! p3B!
 
Well, something else new and interesting from Rod Elliot. Just saw this today.

http://www.sound.westhost.com/project3b.htm

figured i'd give everyone a heads up :-D

-Matthew K. Olson

Jax 24th January 2004 01:07 PM

Cute little amp. CFP with bootstrapped VAS.

Looks similar to the 20W amps I made some 25 years ago using BD599/600 outputs. It was very sensitive to shorts on the output.

This one should be easy for those starting with DIY.

millwood 24th January 2004 01:17 PM

what's so unique about it vs. p3a? I thought p3b is just an overbiased p3a? what else?

Mattyo5 24th January 2004 01:48 PM

Doesn't look very unique...you are right. Input cap is smaller ...cheaper? and r9 and r10 are 3.3k instead of 2.2k emmiter resistors are .33 instead of .47ohms. Devices are slightly different, though I think that if another pair of output devices were added....you could just overbias the regular p3a to the same effect. Who knows. I'm really just talking out my rear end right now. Anyone else have an opinion?

-Matthew K. Olson

Stu 24th January 2004 01:56 PM

Mattyo5 - Rod has also changed the p3a to those new values, the main difference that I can see is the suggested power supply - lower voltage and more capacitance, with inductors also included.

And of course the fact that the bias current is much higher...

Mattyo5 24th January 2004 02:02 PM

Well...i got some big heatsinks....maybe I'll crank up the bias to like 3-5A haha. Too bad I don't even have a p3a done yet. Just gotta use a 1kva toroid per channel. No problem :) Actually, there is a problem...I keep throwing the breaker in my condo when I switch on my Holton monoblocks. :hot: :smash: :devilr: :) later!

-Matthew K. Olson

Andypairo 26th January 2004 11:03 AM

I strongly suggest you a inrush limiter...


Cheers

Andrea

mefinnis 26th January 2004 11:15 AM

Actually ....
 
Quote:

From Rod's website
As can be seen, it is not a complex amp, and in fact is absolutely identical to that for P3A ......
I think it is fair to say that Rod isn't claiming some great breakthrough/change ..... just making it more user-friendly for building, PCBs etc.

Reminds me a little of an A40, but using discrete devices cf darlingtons .... couldn't pick on him for that ..... and I still quite like my A40 ;)

mark

Upupa Epops 26th January 2004 11:29 AM

New Elliot's amp
 
It is out - of - date circuit, without any current limitation, with big distortion. New PMA's amp, called A - 2, is similar easy to build and have very much lower distortion - below 0,001 %. It have 30 W into 8 ohm. I have heard it and I must say that's amazing !

peranders 26th January 2004 11:36 AM

Re: New Elliot's amp
 
... yeah, but you have not heard Mr Elliott's amp yet.....so careful with your verdict.


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