Replacement for MJE2955...

TKsys · 16th January 2004, 09:56 AM

Hi Folk,

I've build the Rode Elliot P03a
Amplifier with good result. Now it
itches me to try some other output devices. Currently I use MJE2955 and MJE3055 in TO-220 cases.

So are there other devices out there, maybe faster ones or ones more dedicated to audio?

But I'm fixed to the TO-220 style for space reasons.

The schematic can be seen on Rods site:

http://sound.westhost.com/project3a.htm

Cheers,
Toralf

Netlist · 16th January 2004, 11:12 AM

You could try MJE15030/31 or 15032/33 with a higher Vce and Hfe.

/Hugo

djk · 16th January 2004, 11:38 AM

SOA is really poor on the MJE15028....31 series above 15V.

At 30V the SOA on a MJE3055 is 75W, on MJE15030 only 24W.

At the junction tempertures likely to be encountered at 5A peak collector current (50W/4R peak), the gain will be higher on the MJE3055.

There is little difference in speed at 5A (about 1Mhz on the MJE15030). These scream at 1A, but drop like a rock above 2A.

The only thing I can think to try would be the 2N6488/91, a very popular device with the car stereo crowd. 80V, 75W, 15A, 5Mhz

Netlist · 16th January 2004, 11:59 AM

Thanks djk
I'm happy I succeeded in making you post.
I learned more as well now.

/Hugo

pjacobi · 16th January 2004, 02:10 PM

... is the Sanyo 2SC4164, which is significantly faster. And has secondary breakdown limit of 4.5 A @ 30V. So while it doesn't melt, it will work.

English but old datasheet:
http://service.semic.sanyo.co.jp/sem..._e/2SC4164.pdf

New Japanese datasheet:
http://service.semic.sanyo.co.jp/sem..._j/2SC4164.pdf

Regards,
Peter Jacobi

pjacobi · 16th January 2004, 02:53 PM

Now I've found the reference page:
http://www.semic.sanyo.co.jp/solutio...sistors_e.html

These ones are fine:
2SB1683 2SD2639

TKsys · 16th January 2004, 03:57 PM

Thanks a lot.

But where can I get those in Germany?

I tried Reichelt, Conrad, Segor. Nobody
seems to have them.

Cheers,
TKsys

pjacobi · 16th January 2004, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TKsys

But where can I get those in Germany?

Ah, you quickly discovered the downside. Sanyo has some very fine BJTs, but is a pain to get them in small quantities.

I assume the types discussed won't show up in the catalogs of German mail order stores.

But some of them advertise to get 'any' parts on request. So you may want to contact them to check the truth in advertising.

Links:
http://www.av-tv.de/
http://www.schuro.de/preisl-transist.htm

16th January 2004, 09:56 AM	#1
TKsys diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NRW	Replacement for MJE2955... Hi Folk, I've build the Rode Elliot P03a Amplifier with good result. Now it itches me to try some other output devices. Currently I use MJE2955 and MJE3055 in TO-220 cases. So are there other devices out there, maybe faster ones or ones more dedicated to audio? But I'm fixed to the TO-220 style for space reasons. The schematic can be seen on Rods site: http://sound.westhost.com/project3a.htm Cheers, Toralf

16th January 2004, 02:10 PM	#5
pjacobi diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hamburg	Sadly NPN-only... ... is the Sanyo 2SC4164, which is significantly faster. And has secondary breakdown limit of 4.5 A @ 30V. So while it doesn't melt, it will work. English but old datasheet: http://service.semic.sanyo.co.jp/sem..._e/2SC4164.pdf New Japanese datasheet: http://service.semic.sanyo.co.jp/sem..._j/2SC4164.pdf Regards, Peter Jacobi __________________ -- YMMV

16th January 2004, 02:53 PM	#6
pjacobi diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hamburg	Sanyo Transistors Now I've found the reference page: http://www.semic.sanyo.co.jp/solutio...sistors_e.html These ones are fine: 2SB1683 2SD2639 __________________ -- YMMV

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16th January 2004, 11:12 AM	#2
Netlist diyAudio Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2003	You could try MJE15030/31 or 15032/33 with a higher Vce and Hfe. /Hugo

16th January 2004, 11:38 AM	#3
djk diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA	SOA is really poor on the MJE15028....31 series above 15V. At 30V the SOA on a MJE3055 is 75W, on MJE15030 only 24W. At the junction tempertures likely to be encountered at 5A peak collector current (50W/4R peak), the gain will be higher on the MJE3055. There is little difference in speed at 5A (about 1Mhz on the MJE15030). These scream at 1A, but drop like a rock above 2A. The only thing I can think to try would be the 2N6488/91, a very popular device with the car stereo crowd. 80V, 75W, 15A, 5Mhz

16th January 2004, 11:59 AM	#4
Netlist diyAudio Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2003	Thanks djk I'm happy I succeeded in making you post. I learned more as well now. /Hugo

16th January 2004, 03:57 PM	#7
TKsys diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NRW	Thanks a lot. But where can I get those in Germany? I tried Reichelt, Conrad, Segor. Nobody seems to have them. Cheers, TKsys

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