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Old 24th April 2013, 07:57 PM   #21
godfrey is offline godfrey  South Africa
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a certain amount of comedy
His loudspeaker patent is worth a look too.

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"design salad"
Yeah, I don't see the point of all this. It might be fun to make up random stuff and write poetry about it, but you'd think the novelty would wear off after a few years.
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Old 24th April 2013, 08:02 PM   #22
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Perhaps Australians just don't appreciate Italian nonsense verse?
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Old 25th April 2013, 12:46 AM   #23
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We Aussies no longer even appreciate English nonsense verse. We will still be scratching heads whilst others are nodding amusement.
You could count the number of widely known poets here on one hand unless you consider bush poetry (rustic musings) in the mix.

Verse is err...not really a strong tradition but neither is lingering at websites with clip-art presentation and flaky ideas.
I should think they promptly get the goodbye 'click'
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Old 25th April 2013, 01:26 AM   #24
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In Argentina we have an old popular saying: "No hacer leña de un árbol caído"= "Don't axe a fallen tree" , so I won't make fun or criticize Stee's ramblings , but want to say something about the supposed "patent" which for some might give his ideas a little credibility.
Mainly to be aware if somebody else misuses or misrepresents a "Patent Application".
Truth is,
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USPTO Patent Application 20060093156
is not an actual *Patent* , at all.

It does not even have a patent number, but a date code.
And then, *what* is it?
Given the litigious identity of a Patent, the fact that it can take up to a couple years to be granted, and the importance of "who was first", means that the USPTO created a means to establish a date WITHOUT SAYING WHETHER THE IDEA WORKS OR NOT OR IF A PATENT WILL BE GRANTED SOME DAY.

From the mouth of the horse:
Provisional Application for Patent

where , among other things, it says:

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A provisional application for patent is a U.S. national application for patent filed in the USPTO under 35 U.S.C. §111(b). It allows filing without a formal patent claim, oath or declaration, or any information disclosure (prior art) statement. It provides the means to establish an early effective filing date
Period. It's just a date, it neither verifies nor grants anything.
You don't have to prove or even explain how something is supposed to work.

2) A provisional application for patent (provisional application) has a pendency lasting 12 months from the date the provisional application is filed. The 12-month pendency period cannot be extended. Therefore, an applicant who files a provisional application must file a corresponding non-provisional application for patent (non-provisional application) during the 12-month pendency period
Meaning you have to file the "real" Patent within 12 Months.
Where is it?

3) here's the meat of the sandwich: the application is NOT checked whether it's nonsense or not (that will be done during the definitive patent processing):
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CAUTIONS

Provisional applications are not examined on their merits.
So in a nutshell I can apply for a patent on how to cook hamburgers by soaking them in cat pee and I'll get a filing date code similar to USPTO Patent Application 20060093156 .
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Old 25th April 2013, 01:48 AM   #25
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Ahem... in cat pee? Ewww
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Old 25th April 2013, 02:07 AM   #26
JMFahey is offline JMFahey  Argentina
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You don't understand the Golden Ratio of Creative Cooking.

And the point is to emphasize that a Provisional Patent Application *must* be granted, to *anybody*, no matter what.
Which also lets you use the prestigious words: "P.A.F"

Oh well.
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Old 25th April 2013, 03:10 AM   #27
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In Argentina we have an old popular saying: "No hacer leña de un árbol caído"= "Don't axe a fallen tree" , so I won't make fun or criticize Stee's ramblings
Do you "pee on a fallen tree" instead?
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Old 25th April 2013, 03:32 AM   #28
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Great snapshot at the bottom of that PDF, my kind of gals, thanks Stee.
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Old 25th April 2013, 04:21 AM   #29
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Do you "pee on a fallen tree" instead?
No, poor Stee, he doesn't deserve that.

Plus I don't consider him a bad guy, he just thinks things in a different way.

And even more, no Argentine will never ever disrespect somebody whose surname is Caniggia:
Claudio Caniggia, probably the fastest footballer ever. - YouTube

Although he also played for Italy, Portugal and Scotland.
Oh well, nobody's perfect .

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